Runnerman
2010-05-16 |  | tier 3 scouts |  |
just as the title says;
with a little extra research and a paid account we should get better scouts. tier 2 is great, but if im already paid i think id like just a little more oomf behind my scout, and by oomf i mean less drunk pilots (all my planets are garbage) |
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HoneyBucket{HH}
99+ day(s) ago | You guys always want more... greedy i tell you. Gimme gimme gimme.
And yeah tier 3 scouts would be cool, but no not to explore a c3... |
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago | Heck, even at a practical barrier of like 80 planets is fine by me. It would certainly make that first c3 a little easier since you would be closer to your goal. But a c3 should be something you earn in battle one way or another, either by constructing it with boarder planets you capture over time or by winning clusters that help you make it. |
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago | Of course I understand that people are probably going to explore for a c3 on RT server just because that is what RT is, but we have to consider turn based implications too. |
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago | Like I mentioned earlier, I don`t like the idea of people exploring for their own C3 as I think they should be earned. Lots of people often try to make it a goal to make 2 20k+ c2s before reverting to a "battle for my planets" mode. As it is, I feel that the real barrier is around 45 planets since that is where the turns really start to get expensive (and thus the cash requirements).
This is why I`ve always told my past trainees to just go ahead and switch to battle mode at a c2 and 2 4k c1s and to aim for a 15k ish C2, because it always takes FOREVER to make 4k c1s and by then the newer players lose interest.
If we can make it where it starts to cost like 12 turns to explore a planet for like 10 turns worth of scouts at a higher level like say 60 or 70 that would be fine. At present, this occurs at like to 50 planet level with T2 scouts. |
nedflanders
99+ day(s) ago | If you are going to give people the ability to explore C3s, then maybe making a paid only feature isn`t the best for game balance.
Infernal: I think that this idea might even encourage more people to go mineral miner, thus increasing the supply of minerals on the market. |
DarkMaraudian
99+ day(s) ago | i forsee many many things from the idea`s here , senseless mineral market hoarding isnt one of them however... |
Infernal
99+ day(s) ago | i foresee people using that as a reason to wipe out the mineral market on RT |
DarkMaraudian
99+ day(s) ago | i think my idea`s help this idea become a new great reason to have 10 stacks on all gamespeeds.
with the right stats to the ship everyone may want to keep these babies in stack 11 , and be very gutted to lose em ( work hard to protect them aswell as your colonies ) |
DarkMaraudian
99+ day(s) ago | i like this idea , paid account T3 scouts is a great idea
exploration possible C3 hmm yeh i guess with fat loads of hardships to your credits
i think ragnarok has nice idea`s on this too.
its possible to introduce this given stephen gives badwolf some new ship slots to play with...
the scouts can have any upkeep / scanner rating etc you want then the quantity / costs / efficiency etc can all be discussed whenever badwolf has the time to introduce em.
my idea`s on the matter:
paid only
( race alterations depending on testing / discussions etc (as suggested below maybe terran and miner only))
ide personally add mineral costs to T3 scouts
ide give em a fat power rating and cost.
upkeep would be reasonable , maybe better than unpaid scouts
ide make them very turn / time consuming taking into account the upkeep is reasonable but the material costs and power rating arn`t
( reasoning for this is to encourage people having 10 stacks to protect these T3 scouts as an 11th stack when out of dp to work on building / protecting them for days/months w/e... if aiming on a c3 project or w/e ) ( remember that they would have high pr meaning alot of preperation, planning and thought would be required for your empire as a whole for a few days effort even in rt , months etc in turnbased )
having them alter your exploration chances requires alot effort from stephen ( lol goodluck with that idea whoever suggested it ) |
Seahawk
99+ day(s) ago | Part of Runnerman`s original idea is that third tier scout would/could be used to cut down on `garbage` planets. So, instead of a 1K barren every 100 planets, it changes to one in 20. Not sure if everyone is picking up on this ? |
Oblivion
99+ day(s) ago | I agree with Rag here, but if exploring with 125 planets was possible I would expect it to cost at least 30-40 billion to explore a planet. Like he said they should be earned... not explored. |
Runnerman
99+ day(s) ago | i think only terran and aminer could explore 3 c2s, i just wanna be able to reasonably explore a few boarders if i did have a c3 |
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago | This would only be a good idea if the only difference between T2 and T3 scouts was build rate (but no more than 10x the T2 build rate IMO). This would eliminate the exorbitant turn costs while maintaining the money costs. It might enable the exploration of a possible 3rd c2 on turn based, but not much further than that since the new barrier would be money related.
However, this would NOT be good if it allowed players to explore c3s easily (remember turnbased implications too). C3s should be earned, not given away like c2s. |
Infernal
99+ day(s) ago | if this were facebook, i`d like DM`s comment. |
DrunkenMasters
99+ day(s) ago | (. )( .) |
Jammer
99+ day(s) ago | I`m not entirely happy with that idea, but not really against it either. I wouldn`t be exploring that much anyway, but it would make newbies be able to explore more, and make it easier for me to obtain some c3`s and such. |
BloodShadows
99+ day(s) ago | That would be cool; we wouldn`t have to give up another ship to get it oranything? |
LordaeroN
99+ day(s) ago | Shush,you wannabe Maraudian! *pokes Runnerman*
I also like the idea. Paid scout is something that people might actually pay for. Also,IT IS possible to get implemented without Ste`s assistance afaik. |
Runnerman
99+ day(s) ago | instead of a new scout, viral gets deleated! |
Deathroe
99+ day(s) ago | really, really great idea !! |
