HoneyBucket{HH}
2010-04-22 |  | Counter-Attack Expiration |  |
So I was talking with some players and so far everyone seems to agree on this subject. Nobody seems to have an argument against it. What do you guys think.
We think that the timer for counterattack expiration should not count down while a player is in VM. Thus if you hit someone and take vm the very next day, then when you come out of vm the counter will still be valid for another 6 days.
This would stop people from hiding in vm to avoid counters and overall probably lead to the server in general being more active. Just a thought. |
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DarkMaraudian
99+ day(s) ago | ide still prefer 7 days of turns... |
Seventeen
99+ day(s) ago | What if they were 3 big clusters...? |
DarkMaraudian
99+ day(s) ago | ide take 7 days of turns over 3 colonies any day |
Seventeen
99+ day(s) ago | I don`t think this is a new idea. It`s so obvious though; I have no idea why it hasn`t been implimented since the beginning. If somebody hit me and then VMed until their counter expired I wouldn`t be best pleased if i needed planets from them. |
Gilead
99+ day(s) ago | I like the idea HB |
Slavyzz
99+ day(s) ago | Yeah Mara I understand the whole hiding in VM until the ranks change situation. I thought this thread was focusing on hiding from counter attacks. That seems more of a problem with the ability to hold onto a large fleet when entering VM. Perhaps you lose a large portion of your fleet when you hit VM? Because I do agree that is a strategy that would be better removed.
I also like the idea of them having to renew their VM before getting the turns (or as I said two hours after it expires). I think that something like that limiting the reVMing after using those buffer turns would be a step in the right direction. |
DarkMaraudian
99+ day(s) ago | that almost sounds like your watching people exploit a bug and not reporting it to me fubar , there is a limit of 24 hours after atacking some one ( possibly server refresh , i dont recall ) , if you see someone bypassing it the proof is infinitely slapped in there event log so all you need to do is report them for cheating... |
Fubar
99+ day(s) ago | Slavyzz..
I hear what you are saying about the rules saying an empire has to wait 24 hours to VM after hitting someone, but that is not what I see every month.
I have seen people post hits on UW`s here and then show up in VM on that server just 10 minutes later.
That is VM abuse. If only because they have found a way around the 24 hour hold. |
Fubar
99+ day(s) ago | I could agree to that HB. People who hid from counter attacks with VM are using a loop hole in the rules to limit the time they are exposed to the chance of big damage.
As game changes go I think it is no big deal and may impact only 1 or 2 people per server who cronicly do this.
This change would have a near zero impact on the game play of all other legitimate VM users. |
HoneyBucket{HH}
99+ day(s) ago | choose who does and who does not deserve**** |
HoneyBucket{HH}
99+ day(s) ago | Yeah grad but it would be worth it to punish those who deserve punishment...
I know... I know... how about we just let me choose who and who deserves to be punished when they VM. That will solve all our problems. And I get to chose the punishment each time on a case to case basis. I promise I will be fair. I swear. |
GradualIncline
99+ day(s) ago | putting a penalty on vming would make me very angry, since I`m sure a good number of us vm for good reasons. |
HoneyBucket{HH}
99+ day(s) ago | Maybe if every single person e-mailed stephen he would consider it. Maybe? |
DarkMaraudian
99+ day(s) ago | nothing will ever get implemented angst , what are you on about o.O` |
KnightOfBaa
99+ day(s) ago | never b 1? |
Angst
99+ day(s) ago | What is the next step to implement something like this? |
HoneyBucket{HH}
99+ day(s) ago | loof, so if you vm with clusters on border they will be gone? Not a bad idea, a little extreme though dontchya think? |
KnightOfBaa
99+ day(s) ago | i agree with loof like :P |
DarkMaraudian
99+ day(s) ago | Slavyzz , youve missed alot of tactical advantages of VM out of your theory , even though i agree with everything you said.
the said person VM`ing to avoid loss`s has the freedom to remain safe untill the ranks change etc and he is safe to come out without risk.
some idea`s to prevent abuse are for example
no free protection after VM expires.
a limit on how you re-vm ( for example if your going to extend your VM you need to do so 24-48 hours in advance of its expiration ) , if they miss it they cant set it for x amount of time after it expires ( or contact an admin in the cases were you obviously arnt just abusing it ) |
DarkMaraudian
99+ day(s) ago | the game shouldnt punish people for VM , thats a silly idea.
but i agree, there shouldnt be any advantages to VM mode either , counters shouldnt expire etc |
