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Cloakofdark
2010-04-08
  Collectives gaining planets  

I`m a collective on the rt server

It seems that collectives have a major disadvantage in increasing planet count

Assimilated c1 through c3 cannot use agri

therefore they are useless to nearly all collectives

Collective also cannot assimilate tainted planets

Therefore the collective remains the only race that realistically can only gain planets one by one

i think either assimilated c1 through c3 should be able to use agri (even if there is a large negative planet modifier) or collectives shoud be able to assimilate tainted planets.
Poseidon
99+ day(s) ago
yup he just sucks u should pick a easy race
DarkMaraudian
99+ day(s) ago
i forgot to mention , the creator of this thread who was planet hoarding was unable to climb , win battles etc etc and has either lost his 64 planet cluster ( died ) or changed race because he was unable to handle it...

proving a few points and making this thread pointless ^^
DarkMaraudian
99+ day(s) ago
how about we delete viral and collectives instead of just virals :o
Slavyzz
99+ day(s) ago
Not a bad though Tikimana but it would seem that it would be a lot more efficient just to go agri on clusters you make since you`d have to dump a lot of research into comm to make that profitable. Collectives do have the potential to be a high pr race but really only on RT because of the amount of turns you can invest and the accessibility of gordoes.
Tikimana
99+ day(s) ago
``why not make it so virals can`t build comm on infected cols ^_^ ``

That`s actually genius. Make all Similare colonies have -75% commercial effect, and have the Collective race`s penalty be -80% commercial.
This would replace the -95% commercial race penalty. Using Similare type colonies, the -80% and -75% would overlap to make -95%.

Also, Collectives could TRY using commerce on Assimilated foreign clusters, because the penalty of not being able to farm on them would be offset by Assimilated clusters not having a -75% commercial penalty like all the Collective`s other planets do.
devorock
99+ day(s) ago
umm why even have collective if they`re just gonna be a broke race? .... the fact their long term income is food and their *uber* cough... sim 5 has -20 ..so its 200 planets vs another races agri c3 which acts as 160...... so why not let them farm on assimilated with a -10 -20-30 agri mod or raise their max colonies by 2?.. atm all they are is non paid newbie hunting race with no potential to go high ... slow build rates (much better then before snow and mans wars)lack of usable planet to get a nice income to fight high pr consistently like other races ...and no use for assimilated or u class??? i i mean come on... why not make it so virals can`t build comm on infected cols ^_^ ...i mean virals still have way more things going for them then collective... i`ve played collective 3 times and after a month saw no future in them so said screw it... so as a non collective i vote do something to make collectives better i wanna see them at 60mil pr more then once a year =P
DarkMaraudian
99+ day(s) ago
its not my stance , collective ARE a bottom dwelling race... its a fact.
Slavyzz
99+ day(s) ago
Gollum I know your stance has always been that collectives are nothing but a low pr race, but since on RT their potential can be so much more that idea is just silly. They just aren`t a popular pick, and probably never will be.
GradualIncline
99+ day(s) ago
*looks at his stats* hmm, my stats indicate that yes, I haven`t battled or defended myself at all in 6+ years :P guess I`m a newb
Infernal
99+ day(s) ago
oh darn im a newb. guess i should hide my head in NP then. your favourite pasttime as i used to recall
DarkMaraudian
99+ day(s) ago
newb of the hour award goes to infernal * yawn
Infernal
99+ day(s) ago
stats. HAHAHA. you`re one to talk. stats mean jack tyvm. they are no direct indication whatsoever when it comes to skill. i mean, look at saga and metalmilitia lololol
DarkMaraudian
99+ day(s) ago
and your a 500 + day old collective with experience behind your belt too newb * yawns

500 days as collective and your stats make my eyes bleed may i add..
Slavyzz
99+ day(s) ago
Wtf is this. Some sort of doubting game about Colls not being able to fight high pr? We have slow ships? Bottom dwellers? You go up and you dig in, I`ve been up in the ranks for days battling and plenty of guards have hit me during that time (during the race war mainly) and I didnt get knocked all the way down with little dmg to them either :P.

Cloak it is what it is, a challenging race. Really just requires the time and effort that most of us don`t have.
ear614
99+ day(s) ago
also because of my sexy looks i am the cause of global warming
ear614
99+ day(s) ago
Nah DM I more sexy. Every time i go out the sun shines brighter XD
KnightofNi
99+ day(s) ago
lmao maraudian is back and he doesn`t have the (A) restraining him XD
DarkMaraudian
99+ day(s) ago
im sorry ?

i cant hear you over how awesomly godlike sexy i am.
OttOmaNS
99+ day(s) ago
it* Seems...

O really... W.e im not going to respond anymore to your not-smart comments ...
DarkMaraudian
99+ day(s) ago
your making my brain eyes and ears bleed with your over the top omgwtf fail newb comments

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