BrokenSwordS 2009-08-17 |  | Updates and stuff part 2 |  | Possible Aminer upkeep changes
Ship - Current upkeep - Proposed upkeep - Ships Power Rating
M.Lyth - 52,052 - 40,554 - 30,040
G.Livid (r) - 20,000 - 15,015 - 12,513
M.Lakko - 2,352 - 6,088 - 11,070
A.Hoko - 1,450 - 4,972 - 9,945
Edited by BrokenSwordS on 2009-08-17 |
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Rebanned 99+ day(s) ago | Yoshi, have burned through many millions with livid-containing fleets at high pr (not the usual 1-10 million range I tend to stick to)... then I started building them last when planning to climb high.
wonder if the same logic would help with lyth? don`t really like them as they dont give me enough bang for my buck (oh wait.. I made your point haha)
if you all disagree about the upkeep, give us cheaper ships! I may raise the pr range I hunt in to celebrate :)
Squaks, seconded. |
Squaks 99+ day(s) ago | yep yoshi you would know about how costly lyth spamming is :) |
Yoshi 99+ day(s) ago | even to a rich aminer livid and lyth are insane upkeep.
Low pr for a mineral miner is cheap as hell
Start spamming it and your cash will go down very fast!
bases are uber cheap....stop being some big ego bastard lol... |
Rebanned 99+ day(s) ago | DarkRaven.. you make a point about the starbases.. but too expensive?? Lyth and Livid are cheap for any decent aspha miner... and any viral for that matter. |
DarkRavenTNM 99+ day(s) ago | I`m not againist any of the changes.
A.miner starbases are to cheap
Lyth & G.Livid have always been to expensive except to a rich empire. |
Rebanned 99+ day(s) ago | p.s. a.miner is a great race. you change my miners, i change your face! |
Rebanned 99+ day(s) ago | I am strongly against all of these changes.
Mind you, cheaper lyth would be nice, but they can still be RE`d, then viral have yet another cheap, super spam ship.
livid upkeep reduction is pointless.. they aren`t that expensive any way (I would know lol)
bases are meant to be a fast, cheap way of getting out of enslavement right? make more expensive = make less important.
(mind you, I use them in stacks occasionally) |
Evane 99+ day(s) ago | I don`t think that the livid`s lack of use has anything to do with its upkeep. But I strongly agree with the increased Lakko and Hoko upkeeps. |
Bonehunters 99+ day(s) ago | Yeah for the livid and lyth.
Boo Hoo for the starbases, leave us poor miners alone |
MirrorUniverse 99+ day(s) ago | Like all except maybe lowering of Lyth. As others have said it is spammed a lot.
The Hoko and Lakko rule, I don`t care what anyone says. |
Yoshi 99+ day(s) ago | quackpack M Lyth not powerfull!?!? WTH DUDE! CMON! have you ever used them!?!? Im one or the biggest fan of the m.lyth on rt even on tb if i could use them i would xD M Lyth is super good best miner ship in my opinion. The upkeep is insane i agree on the drop
Both sbs i love it, personnally as a tax miner, i can base to 600mil without thinking about cash.
Livid is a awesome ship, not used alot cause of his upkeep and some people dont know his real use... |
Balzac 99+ day(s) ago | I think that the last updates have turned the miners and their SB too powerfull , so its a good thing to rise their upkeep , as there are lots of them spamming pure SB .
don`t think its a good idea to lower the upkeep of the Lyth , its good as it is , because no harm for miners but a bit hard for Virals, and its for those ones that I vote a clear NO change for the Lyth |
BadKarma 99+ day(s) ago | I think Livid should stay the same and hoko should stay the same.
People should realize Livid is a great ship by seeing its high upkeep. In fact a 5k increase would be great.
Hokos low upkeep should reflect how much that Sb sucks (it does) especially in comparison to lakko.
What about Kyros upkeep, now that should be changed |
DarkRavenTNM 99+ day(s) ago | OMFG they are finally going to do something with the upkeep for the extrememly expensive ships to build & the extremely cheap starbases. |
BadKarma 99+ day(s) ago | boooo @ hoko upkeep |
JJtheJetPlane 99+ day(s) ago | those changes look good to me. |
PistolPete 99+ day(s) ago | I only got experience with miners at RT, and I know this may be a differet story at TB server. For the lyth at livid. The upkeep could be 60k and it would still be a very usefull ship. The main reason why I use the livid less, is because of the extreme resist and low pure kinetic dmg, combined with not so good buildrate. You may fail horrible with it. Miners have a lot of income very easy, so I don`t think this change will affect miners a lot, unless when spamming lyth to several hundred million PR. The only reason why i like the change is because this will make the ship much more useful by virals, who has got a lot of good ships upkeep nerfed recently.
As for the starbases. They are clearly too cheap right now. |
LordaeroN 99+ day(s) ago | Like it. |
quackpack 99+ day(s) ago | A.miner`s build rate is low enough,I would rather want nothing to be changed than lowering its build rate further.
Lyth is not powerful,its only useful if stacked properly |
Squaks 99+ day(s) ago | lyth doesn`t need to be any more powerful, i`d say raise lyth pr and boost weapon and hull a bit and make its br be 1 |