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Cinnamon
2008-12-02
  Agri Collective question  

I am trying out the agri collective. I boosted my housing research up into the teens, and then concentrated on agri.

I have that nagging negative credit problem, turn by turn, and I want to know -- is it worth it to try to boost my loyalty up to eliminate the negative income, or should I just ignore it and focus on the agri research?
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago
Yes, Ishamael is correct. Even if you were eating CGs and had a 5k loyalty planet, if food is over 7 you will not be making a profit. Without the loyalty and CGs, the max you can buy food and still make money is lower than 7.5. And having a higher population or housing level unfortunately doesn`t fix that (in fact it can make the problem worse if food prices are above 7).

Even if food prices stayed at 1 (which trust me, they don`t), your income would be mediocre at best. Better to plunder those suckers or put the research into agri if you don`t like to plunder.
Ishamael
99+ day(s) ago
no.. terran tax empires are pretty nonexistant. for them to make a profit off of tax food has to be a constant 15 or lower. For collectives they are getting the same amount of money for 2x the food so for them to make a profit at all would mean food at a constant 7.5 or lower... tax coll=meh. someone made an older thread on just that.
Imagine{A{Cool{Name
99+ day(s) ago
isn`t it possible to make the same amount of money through tax with collective as it is with Terran? Terran have 0 modifier on tax. Collective has -50% but can have 2x pop doesn`t that balance it back out to 0? Or does GC math somehow not allow that to happen?
Cinnamon
99+ day(s) ago
TYVM I shoulda known...
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago
all agri empires make negative creds per turn but large food per turn. Just do the math of how much food is selling for (times) amount of food made per turn.

As long as that figure is above your credits lost per turn dont worry at all

IIRC terran can make positive money by upping loyalty on their colonies due to their tax mod but collectives tax mod is so bad you will only ever loose money regardless of how much loyalty or population you have, it`s just hard coded that way
Ishamael
99+ day(s) ago
umm... ignore it... the amount of money you`re directly losing put together with the positive income you`ll recieve from the agriculture will amount to $dic.k

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