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DuckVader
2008-10-20
  tax collective??  

any1 tried tat before
Ishamael
99+ day(s) ago
+/- 150. vm :P
Infernal
99+ day(s) ago
above 5k yes, out of dp? lol thats the true count to be considered
ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago
look for yourself. At this present time there are 335 people above 5000 pr. =P
Infernal
99+ day(s) ago
300 on RT? you`re kidding lol
ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago
Umm, i think we`re still talking about collective right deiloche?

I`ve actually done some testing with an account on ultra some time back, and found that if you maxed out loyalty to 5000, you would break even at about food price of 7. Note this is breaking EVEN, not making actual real cash or building a reserve. This is regardless of population size. Even if your housing and population was so uber huge that your base pr was 3 million pr with like 20 planets, you would still need food price of 7 or 6 to even break even.

You`re better off plundering that sucker than using it for tax. Or better yet, just go agri. Even with food price of 4, you can make more money per week with food than if you found and plundered a 20k c2 with equivalent housing levels every other week. If we had like 4000 people above 5000pr on like every server, that might actually be possible, but on any given server you don`t have more than 150 (unless it`s RT, which has 300 - 400 over 5k pr). Currently on each server you have (approximately):

Slow - 60
Normal - 145
Fast - 110
Ultra - 75
RT - 330

As you can see, you`re not going to get decent land all that often. Just put 5 in housing in the rest in agri. Then start the long road of building up your clusters.
Deiloche
99+ day(s) ago
Yeah... You`re very, very, VERY wrong, Sol. Please read what I actually said... ^^;
UberPansy
99+ day(s) ago
Assimilated C3 Detail
Cluster Lvl 3 which has been assimilated by the Collective Race
Population growth -10
Agriculture N/A <-----------
Mining N/A
Sol
99+ day(s) ago
Deil, thats a fairly specific application where tax is better over long periods of time. but also agri would be better than tax in that situation :P
Deiloche
99+ day(s) ago
Plunder is not comparable to tax, sol. If you have a 100k c3 that you somehow get on a turnbased server, you will make a large, one-time gain from it. Use it for tax, you will make more money after a period of time.
area52
99+ day(s) ago
thx guy for helping me out, guess i`ll just go agri then.
Sol
99+ day(s) ago
agri and plunder is FAR better for collective.
Ishamael
99+ day(s) ago
it`s a waste of housing, just put it into agriculture lol... im fairly sure you`ll always make more money unless the food goes down to like... 4. haha
Hiigarans
99+ day(s) ago
iyou just need enough pop to support the infra upkeep while making food to sell as main source of income
Slavyzz
99+ day(s) ago
yeah I use a combination of tax and agri, once I have a positive income from both I just plunder most of what I capture after I pop them and cluster the really good shtuff.
Deiloche
99+ day(s) ago
It`s roughly as effective as a tax terran with a doubled base PR... not exactly something suggested. However, running a half tax/half agri empire, using collective clusters to make food and captured clusters for tax... could theoretically be a fairly decent income. Primarily suggested for those who happen across a huge c3, which for collectives is completely unusable except via tax or plunder.
Demacus
99+ day(s) ago
ummm -50%= you`d need food under 10 to make cash i think agri better just plunder the clusters you steal
Ishamael
99+ day(s) ago
except you make about... nothing for cash.
CrazyMaverickTNM
99+ day(s) ago
Yeah its awsome, higher base power sucks, however its great cause collective ships are so cheap, just even out food & pop & ur good.
Ishamael
99+ day(s) ago
yeah, its not-smart.

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