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Hollyhell
2006-07-11
  peace for the miner  

why are the miners #1 target for all the paid races you know very well that they haul in the mineral you need why not leave them alone so there ships are easy pickings so what if you leave them alone you get more of the stuff you need i think the only time ANYONE should attack a miner is when you are attacked by one

ps srry for the length of this thread ;)
khamon
99+ day(s) ago
I played A miner for a time and EvilAbadayos knows his stuff I have fought him and won and I have lost but I respect his knowledge of that race and his ability to take the time to help others when he speaks people should listen he s not always right =o but he has helped me when I played miner,as for peace in gc it will be found from two places only,federations and power and I suggest to anyone to have both
fermion
99+ day(s) ago
A.miner ships suck, they are an extremely easy target, so of coure they are hunted down.

And BTW, there is no point in the usual "shooshoo but a very good miner stack can win at least sometimes against the dumbest viral-newbie, so they are not so bad shooshoo" argument, becasue that is not an argument.

cu / hv fun.
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago
mm...well i dont care if minerals are posted at 1k per, just that minerals posted are a good thing.

and there is no such thing as an ultimate stack, u always have to ajust it depending on opponents near and pure pot luck.

and pity is something not may people do. like i stated b4 u picked the race. adapt to it and enjoy it lol

i know i love miner but as i said time constraints and bordom makes them not the race suited to my new playing style.

enjoy miners and even though this may sound wierd now butr if uy want help with them i DO have 2 very good guides one writen by EvilLoof and another by myself with hints and tips on stacking, hoarding and other things that are handy to know for a successful and deadly miner.

pm me on GC:RT and ill send em over but it takes up several PM`s each at max letters
Hollyhell
99+ day(s) ago
ok EA i dont care what you think i dont spam i win most of my counters and most counters on me but your missing the point here i meant that there would probably be more minerals for cheaper if you would stop picking on the miners hell if i was a terran or a viral or what ever i would have made this thread but because im a miner you think im doing it for myself and if you do think that then your not as all knowing as you say you are

you need to stop thinking of miners as a race to be beeten but rather as a race to be pittied

and about being having those wins over 2 mill pr remeber i havent even peen playing for four months im still workin for the ultimate stack NOT the ultimate spam so get your story strait b4 you make assumptions
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago
ok holly...i honestly dont care either way about ur opinion or anything just as much as u dont care about mine.

i got 2k wins as miner OVER 2 mill pr so i think i know more than most how they work best against cirtain people and races

thing is to be any good u got to be VERY aggressive with miner. make a few c3`s and hold them, make a load of minerals and wen u can no longer be bothered or cant hold the c3`s no more plunder and then remake them again as a different mineral.

now i know for a fact TBK has always said im a much better miner than any other race ive restarted as, and trust me ive restarted more than almost anyone in the game. dont believe me just ask anyone in the top 4 feds and they will tell you my habbits with restarting.

all i can say is get over the fact that u get bashed, everyone does. new and old players alike.

its how u LEARN to play the game how it was ment to be played.

once u get over the fact that ur getting picked on and keep failing counters cos ur spamming get over it and learn to stack and anticipate others stack and maybe then u will be one of the better miners on the server.

untill then there are so few miners that are any good on the RT server that is a shame but ah well...make it different and get up there
Hollyhell
99+ day(s) ago
and dont get me wrong about terrans like miners there are some good ones out there just ask about 250 ppl in GCRT EA you know who
Hollyhell
99+ day(s) ago
EA im not the knid of miner that just sits there and takes it i am an agresive miner and i dont have 6 hrs a day either so dont give me that i somehow manage to be good enough to get a +win rate and im not just a terran beater though for me they are the most patetic race there is when push comes to shove i normaly only lose when there are Rubys or HUGE #s working against me
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago
Empire ID 262505
Empire Name nobody1m3
Protection Damage Protection
Expires in 11 hours
Race A.Miner
Planets 37
Rank 2
Power Rating 100,307,969
Federation N/A
Slave Empire of N/A

shame he is a pure kryo spam though isnt it?
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago
TBK u failed to take into account loyalty
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago
hollyhell i was mine for over 4 months

i love en top death BUT i know thier weaknesses and they are buggers to use over 10 mill pr every day like i can with almost any other race baring collective (that were never ment to go that high anyways it seems)

miners are a great race but take a great player to truly capitalise on this

borries are easy to counter, just a smart use of fodders or placment of chlorite/broadswords and ur set.

chiron are a different ater, illites do them in if u have enough on careful but expect to loose alot of them.

all other races can be easily beaten by antisipating their stacks

but some just like the 61 planet minre style. 1 home world 2 c2`s and max borders and dont care about battling at all and dont care about selling minerals. if thats how u like to play good for u i hope u enjoy urself. im more of an aggressive player and miner just dont cut it for me anymore in that regard so i no longer play them cos ive not got 6 hours a day to dedicate to buiilding up to hit those i ant totake out anymore.

and hollyhell i did say on RT not on other servers as there are several decent miner on other servers,. and for the record high in the ranks means only that they can spam for the hills and have a deep pocket, nothing more so dont think power = a good player. just someone with too much time on their hands and enjoys building kyros most of the time
TheBlueKnight
99+ day(s) ago
35 cgs per labor
2 20k c2 38,000 land going to industry
38,000 x 35 = 1,330,000 cg`s per turn without any infra research
expenses 38,000 raw =$38,000
food around =$500 to $1000 per turn
Profit around 1.3 million a turn

Now do nmbers for tax miner same land no infra research

or do simple math

what`s greater 350% positive mod or 150% positive mod
Omegian
99+ day(s) ago
Holyhell, get used to it ... and TBK, calcs are wrong, tax miner makes alot more than a CG miner, even if i had this 24k c3 ... which would be a killer c2, i made 2 mil cgs per 9 with 20 industry, with 20 housing, i would be making alot more income ...
Hollyhell
99+ day(s) ago
and btw EA this miner atm is rank #2 nobody1m3 just a few days ago he was #1 so dont tell me that there are no good miners hell ive been in the top 50 several times
Hollyhell
99+ day(s) ago
EA was your mama beet by a miner or somting cause to me it sounds like you got somthing against us and the reson i dont sell MY minnerals is cause ppl that abuse miners and take them for granted most of the time learn a lesson from me when i have a fleet that smashes them to pieces it take true skill to play the part of the miner not just random attacks
brown
99+ day(s) ago
i just started as a miner and im starting to realize, my place reallly is just to make minerals. Ive had my acc on ultra for 5 days, and ive already got about 40 planets and 700 mil. But when i battle, its a waste of my turns :(
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago
but why would mineral miners need to BOTHER exploring for decent land though? thats just beyond me.....
TheBlueKnight
99+ day(s) ago
sell cg`s
before new forum was introduced bliss made a thread with the calculations for miner and hands down cg miners made more money than both housing and minerl miners with equa land
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago
hollyhell: yes u MAY bring in most of the minerals...if thats true WHY NOT POST THEM!!!!!!


there is now no need for the miner race with the KZ mineral bot that pops in so i dont see whyu people still whine about getting a raw deal with miner. ur choice to go miner from the start. u picked it wanting to make fast cash. good for u. now u have to have the disadvantage of having all that cash. in this case its the race with the `worst` ships if u dont kow how to use them

im sorry if ts harsh but atm there are NO good miners that are active left. ALL suck atm sadly on RT and im standing by that. if u disagree prove me wrong (and im meaning current miners not past ones as there were a few VERY deadly ones)
moomoo
99+ day(s) ago
miners have bad ships evryone knows it, but that can also help because people tend to under estimate them, the main problem i have isnt the order of my stacks it is getting the time to stack them which is y i agree with HH it seems as though everyone and their mom is hunting the aminers
PsychoBilly
99+ day(s) ago
And EA...BTW....being spammed is part of this game....I think i have been spammed by most people and most races on this game at one point or another....and as for V.Borrelley Spams!!!....Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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