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UbErPaWnAgE
2007-10-28
  update poll  

just out of curiosity who here believes that things would be better off the way they were before all the updates?, with all due credit to the staff for all their hard work now that we have had time to work with the updates a bit was it realy worth it? nerfing v class, updating g and d class, boneing up minor? making collective superior?

if you could go back before all that would ya do it?
UbErPaWnAgE
99+ day(s) ago
points to lothor///////// That is the general theme behind the sceens that im getting from a lot of players, thats why I posted this thread to try and uncover the truth
lothor
99+ day(s) ago
if you want to reverse an update reverse everything back to 1.05

now then spacefed was a game
Yoshi
99+ day(s) ago
if you make hercs a nd nriv build rate back, make angel pyth and such back...the evil ships atm is curun form guard...
DarkLands
99+ day(s) ago
The only problem i have is there is always a race thar murders you no matter what you do or is a pain to beat. The staff killed the virals now they are easier to beat and they arnt so common but then undid their own work and made the collectives the rediculous race who are now like the plague the virals were.....
UbErPaWnAgE
99+ day(s) ago
thx for all the imput, here is my oppinion on the matter
1.a minor rocks and is a more complete race to have a decent stack with, m chlor is a great ship and should be left alone. build rates are a bit compettitive cuase they are not a fighting race, more defencive in nature.

2. guard updates were apreciated very much and it was a step in the right direction, g and l class will see a difference I would imagine at around 20 mill+ other than that still the same, I think it was omegian who said neutrals would be better? lol thats sad guard is supposed to rock out and I think needs more work

3. collectives are vastly superior now, I would rather see the ships toned down some and no retal added in its place to encourage full stacking more,I still see all collectives spamming just like before.

4. marauder`s d class is awsome with some nice changes, I havent played this race yet but maby one day, im looking forward to it

5. I think terran needs the most attention atm, t emp fix is a must, herc and nirv build rates, and I think that would be a fine start.

thx to all for ur imput keep it comin
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago
fixing links that dont work , they dont need C5
pWn3dN3wb13
99+ day(s) ago
"i like everything about the update so far , part from collective thats basicly a giant disaster , but even so ive tried to fix 1 step at a time for them , MoW is all that needs fixing for em , maybe fix the cluster projects too"
What do you mean by that, giving them back the ability to make c5 or just fixing the links that don`t work for assimilated clusters...
Gronoria
99+ day(s) ago
I do like the updates in general, but I really dislike the new build rates. For miners build rates are alright except the starbase build rates but capitals are good, as they have lyth/lictor/flysch/arogonite which have good build rates. For virals, well they mostly have enough capital ships reversed, so no real problem there. Terrans however have only 3 capital ships with mediocre build rates atm. This kinda nerfed them, but i don`t think that was needed at all. We`re after all talking about an easy race here. And as maraudian already said the MoW could use some weakening.

And Cutter, I respect your opinion as should everyone .
EvilPandy
99+ day(s) ago
don`t notice much difference personally, apart from liking my Sting a little more i still beat things up with things i build.

As A Miner, my stacks still win, they just kill a few more ships than I`m used to.

Collective might be good if there were any flipping targets on rt.
Augustini
99+ day(s) ago
I like the updates, in particular i like the G+L class updates although IMO they still have too much scanner rating to boost their PR but other than that, i really like the updates.
Cutter{MI}
99+ day(s) ago
yes, I have been against ALL updates.
Still am.
let the staff stick to catching cheaters, processing paids, moderating chat and helping new players.
feh to updates.. they have all been a bust.

I know not many agree with me, but i am entitled to my opinion like everyone else.
ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
99+ day(s) ago
Viral: In general good! More challenging. Although eventually need to get some ship lists changed lol. Chiron range 7 was a must. Build rate nerf hurts a little, but so it should!

agrees
Archaeoptyrex
99+ day(s) ago
Guardian: I don`t know ... the ships are a little bit better, but only a little. But can chase and build better relatively with the capital build nerf.

Maru: Generally better -- would like marus to keep old build rate for pyth angel if possible. (not for virals). Marus can`t really match collectives other than by spamming, which ain`t great.

Terran: Yeah nerfed a lot -- slow ship building now. Perhaps if terrans had old herc and nirv build rate? (not for virals). Too weak relatively I think. Could do with a couple of nice SB`s -- at least comparable to what miners get, lol

Collective: good race. tough to not spam though since nearly all ships do not have the "no-retal bonus". Mow is still a joke.

Miner: Good in general. But SB range is still far too high. Lictor and lyth look relatively balanced :) Chlor is perhaps too strong, but that`s a maybe.

Viral: In general good! More challenging. Although eventually need to get some ship lists changed lol. Chiron range 7 was a must. Build rate nerf hurts a little, but so it should!
ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
99+ day(s) ago
A miner actually Impossible to win numerous battles , smacked around unless skilled / lucky or spam , crabpy race for combat and defence * YAWN *

hmm mara that was true in some cases old time yes today after update it instnt a skilled race anyone now can pawn all they need is stacking help
lodadilou
99+ day(s) ago
i Like the Updates, Maraudian summarized exactly my opinion
Omegian
99+ day(s) ago
Hmm, so far the updates are good. Though I argue collective modifications, aminer SB modifications, and guardian modifications.

But yes, more collectives, more miners as well, which I like
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago
capital ship nerf and T emp future update both work for terran better than other race

( guardian / col + stackers also with capital nerf )
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago
viral V class with godlike range basicly effortlessly pawning anything with very low cost`s and utmost ease * yawn *

A miner actually Impossible to win numerous battles , smacked around unless skilled / lucky or spam , crabpy race for combat and defence * YAWN *

collective extreemly uncomplete and handicapped yes ok some challenge and fun but in a nutshell , only apeal to it was a handicapped version of maru for unpaid with some interesting additions , huh wait no players / planets and lame food prices , my race isnt needed o.O`...

maru being plain old maru were just boring compared to collective really , some new D class makes stacking alot more interesting in my opinion

guardian , tax guardian , whats the point , G and L suck for all but upkeep , base pr sucks , theres no reward in this race , UW`s ? err hello we need players to do those and there currently all viral and have no interest in suicide when im just easy victim to help keep there boarders up in order for them to completely dominate the game every way possible. no point * yawn *

capital ships , yar these build like 10x faster than everything else and basicly wipe the floor with these sexed up mod`s , spammy spammy spam. * yawn *


i like everything about the update so far , part from collective thats basicly a giant disaster , but even so ive tried to fix 1 step at a time for them , MoW is all that needs fixing for em , maybe fix the cluster projects too
Jok3r
99+ day(s) ago
Not many Borrelly spams around the 1 mil to 3 mil region

Aminers seems to be a favorite among newer players

I am not sure about the whether the Gaurdian ship boost has any effect on a UW attempts

The population of Marauders is still very small

The population of Collectives has grown

Gaurdians still rely on K Class, Ruby & Tourmaline a lot, and I think Neutrals are a better choice then the G Class or L Class.

Looking back now I feel that the Terran Race has been the one most weakened by the updates. Other then that everything looks pretty normal really.

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