Pandy
2006-06-18 |  | GC ONLY - FED LEADER CHANGE |  |
For those players who`ve requested a change of fed leadership for reasons like, going in vacation need a leader in the fed, or current leader has been inactive for 30 + days.
Finally Admins have this ability and thanks to all those who requested this for the benefit of the game, very very much appreciated.
Conditions
- Current leader must indicate who he or she would like to have take over the fed, provide fed id# and name in a PM from the leader.
- You also as a fed may request this if your leader has been inactive for 30+ days. The reason for this is due to if a leader is inactive and gets deleted in the server clean outs, then the fed will disappear as well.
If the fed leader is inactive, this will be done via each player in the fed informing admin of their vote, now to be fair to the fed would suggest for the time being it be 1 vote per planet as per older system, forsee one problem here, admins may not be online when the vote is taken from your fed. (due to this vote could alter, case by case basis until then)
Admin/Mods who can do this change
Viper gc.rt
Pandy gc.rt
Eternus gc.rt
quaint gc.fast
lothor gc.rt
Belial gc.rt
Edited by Belial on 2006-07-08 |
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ThePakistaniEmpire
99+ day(s) ago | wow such a old post |
DukeEmmoc
99+ day(s) ago | you did on your last post lol |
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago | answered you in your own thread , cant be bothered going to this one and your other |
DukeEmmoc
99+ day(s) ago | ive stated i recongnise the existance of this bug but like other bugs im sure it can be fixed if the enthusiasm was there to do so, it does not take half a year to fix this kind of error. Furthermore if this was the intention then we would firstly be informed of this and in addition stephen and others would not be stating that they intend to bring in a UC style system.
We do not want a UC style system and we do not wish to wait for the update if that is ever going to come - if we do however have the wait we want reassurance that the old system will return.
Quite simply i state again, the bug should be fixed and the voting system returned, i recongize the bug exists but what is in question is whether the enthuaism or desire is there atall to have a return to federation voting - again this is perhaps due to the fact non-paying members are able to get federations.
you also claim there is zero point crying about it and then go on to request i contact stephen, hmmm..... the fact is that `crying` about things and pressurising often gets action, it was only through that that the current concessions on replacing inactive leaders were made. Therefore we will not be quiet, i have waited patiently for months for this `tempoary` removal to be returned and we have received nothing about it nor told of the admins/stephens intentions. Also i have contacted stephen on this before, i got no reply neither did the others that did this with me a while back, he also ignored us on the chat whilst answering questions of others. |
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago | when will you click on ... pandy even told you ... IT contains a very exploitable bug and wont be returned untill it is fixed within the update , it has nothing to do with the staff like you have falsely accused in your other thread
Quote " Whether this was not an elaborate ploy by the administrators in unknown but what is apprent that instead of the bug being removed it was used as an excuse to remove voting all together. " End Quote
as pandy has said we miss it as much as you , but untill its fixed their is Zero point in crying about it , and trust me you have gone far over the point of just asking them to hurry up and fix it , why not just send stephen an email ( his contact details are on the Here ) and ask him ( the correct person ) to do just that :) |
DukeEmmoc
99+ day(s) ago | Administers - It hasnt encouraged more paying accounts it may have encouraged in the overall scheme of things a less exciting game.
- and when i say this i am refering to the removal of the voting system obviously. |
DukeEmmoc
99+ day(s) ago | that isnt actually abuse talmar, its a recongnised part of the game that higher planet count empires should and can take over federations with their planet vote. IT only makes sense for the game as if you have more planets you have more citizens and often you are a better player.
Leaders are warned in the mannual to be wary of spies. Therefore they should have an effective recruiting method, ensure that they are not letting in spies and hostiles and do not let in massive planet count members. At the same time they should be good leaders, ensure they actively speak to their members and carry out and protect their wishes. The whole point of the voting system is that it promotes all these things. Perhaps one of the many reasons for the federation decline in Galactic Conquest (in terms of skills and active members, as well as the leaving of veterans) was because of the removal of the voting system.
Administers - It hasnt encouraged more paying accounts it may have encouraged in the overall scheme of things a less exciting game. |
Talmar
99+ day(s) ago | I can see where htis voting system can be abused. I would say change it to Total Land / 1000 (or something like this) This will keep people from sucking up a whole lot of worthless planets just to slant the vote.
I like the whole idea about the voting. I think it would make thngs rather interesting :) |
DukeEmmoc
99+ day(s) ago | `I hope voting NEVER comes back , I think this fix is perfect and allows for feds to grow without the threat of people coming in and ruining a fed just for fun .`
This game is about war, infiltration and spying, take overs and attacking are all part of it including a large fun part of federation politics. Often a take over is motivated by a `serious` matter not just for fun, for instance one side may take over an enemy federation. This has always been part of the game and is a good reason to see voting return as it was. Not to mention leaders should be chosen by the members, that it adds a better dimension to the game is this happens, that its simpler than this system, that it allows for the capable and strong leader to survive and the weak leader to perish (point of war game), it increases the role playing and fun part of the game. And mainly and most of all it is the system that we were promised would return and the system that has always worked, i find it annoying that the bug cannot simply be fixed and the system replaced - there are obviously more reasons than just the bug for it not being brought back. |
GalacticArmy
99+ day(s) ago | I don`t see why they don`t just leave Merlin. Its that easy. |
Merlin
99+ day(s) ago | ColdDeath: IF there is a one man`s fed then how are there issues with OTHERS within the fed.
If an inactive account is removed from the system, then of course that fed is also going to die. Now, if there is two or more people in that fed, including the fed leader, and the leader goes 30+ days inactive, then it`s upto the other members to get to an Admin and have a new leader added |
ColdDeath
99+ day(s) ago | I oppose to the second rule, if there is a one mans fed, it`s not needed to whipe out the fed. The leader then doesn`t annoy anybody by not being online... Now if it`s a big fed, I can understand! But there is also a option to leave the Fed, so basicly the second rule is really not needed. It`s only unfair to the little fed! |
UberPansy
99+ day(s) ago | Good call there Bladez... |
roboregiment
99+ day(s) ago | thats all the leader has got to do if hes inactive kick all the members off |
StormofBladeZ
99+ day(s) ago | LOl saga. cause you all slaves and no planets. |
Rytaran
99+ day(s) ago | YES!!! I was once in a fed with an inactive leader. As a result, several GC players went inactive with the leader. I asked if they could change the leader, but they said they couldn`t. Now I`m so glad they can! |
byzantium
99+ day(s) ago | I hope voting comes back. But My thanks goes out to who all helped make this change possible. |
SagacityUS
99+ day(s) ago | I hope voting NEVER comes back , I think this fix is perfect and allows for feds to grow without the threat of people coming in and ruining a fed just for fun . |
DukeEmmoc
99+ day(s) ago | lol you making yourself look silly gameguide by repeating yourself, ive already stated i understand the situation completly and i state clearly in my other petition that i know of the bugs existance. Perhaps you should take more of a professional position like Pandy is doing. Its a game guide to answer `whining` not to respond aggresively to it. My whining is legitimate, i have done my research and I assure you when i last checked (when this was last brought up) the vast majority agreed that the voting system should return, i dont know if these people have left the game but i hope for that support still.
Please have the bug fixed and return the voting system by planets. |
Pandy
99+ day(s) ago | weirdly just sent this PM to a player talking about this, and i think its completely applicable here. Many know who did this and who the fruit and vegetables feds are that were involved, they also i`ll inform lost a great deal from doing this on their accounts and were punished appropriately.
If the older forum were up you`d all be able to see and read enough about this to fill a bottomless pit.
anyway this is the PM I just sent a player.
oh i agree completey, i want the fed vote back in, however i also don`t want to be the focus of who they yell at when the fed leadership is stolen from them, i`m sure you can understand that.
Fed voting was not removed due to anaboliking regardless of how many keep saying so.
It was abused because 3-4 players who stayed intheir own fed were able to vote for a player they sent out to other feds.
so for example
members
fed named fruit Planets
apple 200 leader
berry 250
cider 250
dudefruit 100
800 votes yes ?
fed name
vegetables Planets
carrot 10 leader
parsnip 10
cabbage 10
peach 1
31 votes yes ?
problem was that peach had 801 votes and took leadership from carrot
so how do you think that happened without abusing the system ?
and that was why it was removed
For the record I miss the voting as do most of the guides and admin, and i`m sure that any with the old anabolikers list could attest to, just about every guide was on it at one stage or other, its not tha anaboliking that we disagree with , its the blatant refusal to believe that in a fed where possible votes where 180, that 800 votes was nothing unusual.
Now I know you all joke about Stephen math, as does Stephen himself.
but there is no way for 180 to = 800
think on that |
