eclips
2007-04-28 |  | Ultra?? drop dead |  |
Wow...those bigshots really show guts man...
Pathetic
Hostile Federations:-
Blue Knights
TheBorgCollective
Knights of Avalon UT
KA-TET
The Tabby Cats
[]BOS[]
Broken Radar
Federation Power Rating Members Planets Leader
Knights of Avalon UT 635,290,154 16 2,549 Xanding
Blue Knights 64,072,957 16 2,405 Darwin
The Tabby Cats 359,168,074 15 1,778 quaint
The Perverse Ones 59,902,699 20 1,583 eclips
wolfs dragoons 22,294,391 15 639 Bladactania
KA-TET 8,685,623 12 503 L337Phoenix
TheBorgCollective 15,272,526 10 454 Archaeoptyrex
ChRoNiC CoNqUeSt 12,478,496 6 336 HoneyBucket
[]BOS[] 15,872,236 18 305 ShadowLands
Wolf`s Academy 224,857 16 156 Starbuck
DISTEMPER 5,120,582 11 132 sidewinder
United Planets 2,617,515 9 129 pmacnam
Area 7 183,372 6 90 sharkrider
IMPERIUM GALACTICA 305,791 12 79 Continuum
this has been going on for over half a year now.
If a fed actually only has 3 active people, or 2, or just 1...THEN TEAM UP INSTEAD OF SPREADING!!! then you might get stronger as a group and be active aswell, what are the leaders good for anywayz if they don`t want to make a fed stronger!!!
and yea it happened to BoC/BK aswell, all the wats against them, and yes to Matrix, PG, IG, and others aswell, BUT THEY WERE TOPFEDS AT THAT TIME, or coming close to it!!!, not just 1 fed at the 4th place.
BLOODYweak Leadership has made ultra dull!!!
DO something!!!!
you are all great leaders at getting powerfull, but how many new players have you thought lately?? given attention to to help him get stronger, keeping your own new and low powered fedmembers active by talking to them??? well...what I hear is that there are enough feds where it`s only about the high-pr-players...with leaders who lost track of the little people...(so not ALL leaders are bad, just some...)
please explain me why the massive war against TPO is 1 of the most Xciting things happening on ultra next to the endless UW-preparations atm????? |
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XCOM
99+ day(s) ago | And so Smiley was right.... |
Deiloche
99+ day(s) ago | Yeah. I agree with you there. As I said, I just felt a bit slighted. My primary servers are normal and slow, which are both servers where I have dominated for lengths of time. My 300 planets on fast mostly only helped to crash the food market there, heh. I apologize for pushing at you, it was unnecessary. It would be nice to see empires like DkCivic go boom... what else is there for him, really? He has sat close to max credits for months, and even though I will go boom shortly his credits will easily return. *shrugs* To each their own, I suppose. I consider DkCivic an ally, but I would like to see an all-out war where say ten of the biggest empires on slow unite to fight Civic, where either they lose theirs clusters doing so or he does. Just an all out, epic battle. |
eclips
99+ day(s) ago | again...not just 1 UW is needed...multiple are...
and Delloche,
'One had over 300 planets and the other had five c2s (my miner on slow.)'
pleaaaaaaase...to have had 300 planets ones is...uhm...well...close to nothing...to compare...I've had 1 300+ empire on normal, 2 300+ empires on fast, 1 300+empire on rt, and 7!! 300+ empires on ultra...
I respect the time and effort put in by you to build your empire, but in my book, you are still by far one of the biggest empires on ultra, cause in my book a truly big empire is an empire who has OR had a high planetcount and is/was able to keep it...one who has made name on the server, being recognised by at least 75procent of the server goodways or badways, and who is strong on the playground that he's fighting on.
I will not bug you during this UW cause I think the server needs it, but I do think that it's 'not just a UW' that has to happen to get the server running again, it takes sacrifice and suffering for the big players (means...start fighting without safetynets...if you can't resist, then just plunder...) |
Smiley
99+ day(s) ago | It seems like Deiloche is going to make the blow - lets see if the time after the blow can be interesting or not :) |
donster
99+ day(s) ago | Oh yea, sure, I build cheap ships first. I understand the math behind the game all to well.
Take a look at the difference in cost between using 2 turns at once to build a particular ship type and building that same ship type using two separate turns. I think you`ll be surprised at how the total cost works out. Even more surprising is that it is not linear - it gets worse as the number of turns used goes up. That is unless Stephen has fixed the bug. I doubt it, but it`s been a couple of years since I found it. |
donster
99+ day(s) ago | I wouldn`t exactly say there was no cost to attacking you - any idea how many BTCs it takes to go from nothing to 200-300m? More than a few :/
I`ve been watching you build and know exactly what you have with only about 30m unaccounted for. Rest assured I don`t think even Dk can stop your UW. He`s probably sitting on a ton of fodder and has no meaningful offensive fleet. Your fed mates will deal with him quick enough if his PR starts changing. Even so, the recent changes to A.Miners truly makes them a defensive race and those cheap viral ships can`t do much against a large number starbases because the of their ranges.
I for one have given up on stopping you :( and am focusing on buying minerals before you blow the server - 10% of a large number is still a reasonably large number. I`ve pretty much accomplished this in the last 36 hours so, well, you know... |
Deiloche
99+ day(s) ago | Oh, I agree that my empire should never have existed. But that fact that an empire with a FRACTION of what I have could attack me with impunity with almost no cost bugs me. If I didn`t have civic supporting me I couldn`t go anywhere NEAR where I am now, despite the fact that I have more than double his income: an income I spent a solid six months making. It bugs me that you can sit permanently in VM and hit me on your whimsy.
Secondly... I didn`t put those starbases on top to stop you. That was just a convenient side affect, watching you attack me and get completely trashed. There is a certain order to building things. You build your cheapest stack first to conserve credits. Surely you understand that? I know you don`t really HAVE expensive stacks, but surely you build your pyth before your d.angels. :P
As for doing a UW I had to fight for? Check out fast and slow, where my UWs both succeeded. I fought for both of those empires. One had over 300 planets and the other had five c2s (my miner on slow.)
Do you honestly think any player BUT one with an unnaturally powerful income could actually go boom on ultra right now? Even I couldn`t do it without the support I have... and who knows, I might still fail. Given my fleet, I doubt it... it would take a lot of BTCs and betrayal from civic to take me down.
Anyway, as you`ve said... the server needs it. It could do with three in a row. If civic doesn`t follow me, I hope maraudian peppers the server with kalzul UWs.
And I apologize, eclips. I didn`t mean to seem to "brag". I was miffed that you completely ignored me as a big empire, and I was making a point. There IS a big empire doing something. I didn`t make this empire to just sit around and do nothing. If I did, I`d be out there handing you your rear end on the battlefield every 24 hours because I could afford any fleet I could possibly dream up.
My empire on ultra was created for one reason, and one reason alone: UW. |
eclips
99+ day(s) ago | wow Donster, even after such a long read I think you have some pojnts there...especially in that last part.
Donster, you fought much and heavy in the past, and lately you really seem to pick it up a bit like you used to, but please do understand that you too were in vmode for a long time with all those tasty clusters...
you can't build a new playground if the old guyz keep the stones for themself |
donster
99+ day(s) ago | I`ve personally enjoyed trashing what has to be over half a billion in ship PR in the last several months. Unfortunately, you have now put starbases above your Fodders - odd that it took losing some much PR for you to figure that one out.
If my clusters have been exposed, it`s only because I`ve put everything into hitting you from below to reduce your PR knowing that I would not win, my fleet would be trashed and I`d have no turns left - no problem - going after borders was a distraction to my objectives at the time. I seem to be the ONLY one on Ultra who has tried to do anything to stop you...
As for fleeing when my clusters are threatened - well I won two of the three battles that I`ve had in the last 24 hours - not bad for someone who should be rusty after being in VM for so long, so rest assured I can fight for borders when it suits my needs. Do a UW where you really have to fight like I did and maybe we can talk...
Whining about "cheap viral ships" from someone who constantly boasts income of $50+ million per turn is extremely sardonic and the fact that someone with only 37 planets can generate so much cash has to be one of the biggest perversions in the game - note, I`m not faulting you here, I know you invested a lot of time, but it does highlight one of the biggest fundamental flaws in the game design. |
Smiley
99+ day(s) ago | Species, it cant be called "protecting" high ranked people when I hit you and you got starbases and fodders? Well, sometimes i hit 1 planet empires too - just for fun. This game is about fun - and this game is about attacking others.
Anyway, hope long term VM people are joining the fun. We need more playing empires. |
quaint
99+ day(s) ago | just force restart all long time VM`ers and your problem is solved, they either get active or get lost, win/win situation |
Deiloche
99+ day(s) ago | Considering the fact that the game itself is 4 years old... yeah, I`d call it permanent.
Regardless, I didn`t mean permanent as that you`re never going to come out. I said it because you come out, use your cheap viral ships and take a pot shot at me, then flee with your tail between your legs when your clusters get threatened. *shrugs* Permanent enough for me... you have no threats to you, you simply pose a threat to those who actually play the game. |
donster
99+ day(s) ago | It`s just so you grow complacent...and I`d hardly call two years permanent :) |
Deiloche
99+ day(s) ago | Ah, yes donster... I am shaking in my boots in fear of the permanent VM dude. |
species382
99+ day(s) ago | Indeed, smiley, your suicide attacks to protect high-rank players is indeed hard to understand.
On the other side, these attacks were a textbook example, why virals pay a lot to less upkeep for pyth and angles. |
Smiley
99+ day(s) ago | speci, I pick on lots of empires - not only you. I get "angry" messages from lots of empires - not only you. As far as I remember you didnt understand the point of me attacking you? Well, this is an attackinggame and I do lots of attacks - failed and successful ones when i am active. If everyone else did the same we would have more fun - so I am doing my part :P |
species382
99+ day(s) ago | Smiley, your plan to pick on miners/young empires while beeing scared of virals/old empires is just the behavior which makes the game so poor.
And btw, getting angry messages is NOT an indication of beeing a great fighter. You claim you could do something to change the server, if you want, well, than actually DO it. Currently your acting seems more like you want to preserve the status quo. |
eclips
99+ day(s) ago | I just say that it's time that some bigshots show actions by their words... |
Smiley
99+ day(s) ago | Few of the tops want to waste their empires for nothing. Whats the fun to get your name on the "winners list" if you already got a few nicks there? I understand the tops perfectly well - and guess we all should spam Stephen with angry e-mails instad :) |
Smiley
99+ day(s) ago | Why do you leave responisibily to other all the time? You could do 2-3 UW attempts a week if you wanted to - and so each of your fedmambers. Make a contest like that instead?
I like fighting you guys as you get so angry when I attacks you - if I use 200% some of you guys spamms me with fun messages. I dont care if pervs are around or not - but always fun when people get angry when I attack them :)
As long as you guys tries to be most active around you will have most fedwars against you - it isnt harder than that. If we turned fedwar to a VM-fed or only inactive people we wouldnt get much fighting :) |
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