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ShatterdDreams
2007-04-02
  is it botting if....  

is it botting or illegal if i hire/force some kid/small child/poor sap to click research for me??
CounterCrazy
99+ day(s) ago
ShatterdDreams i do it with my little brother... he didnt mind... i just later found out he also liked how my AUTO passwords got him into other sites that are not of his AGE.... had to password everything again...

he can still got on... but if the server refreshs i have to hit him back online again. plus i hate typing in a password each time but heck its a safty net
species382
99+ day(s) ago
the problem is, that i dont see a way to detect such a 2-player empire, and what you can not detect is rather hard to sanctify...
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago
What is not cheating

- More than 1 person taking turns playing the empire who has activated the Overmind Project (blowing up the server), if they were to camp together in the same physical location for 48 hours using the same PC.

that part was taken out of a rule link for deiloche

as for me making rules up i see numerous parts of the rules saying just because youve found a loophole or its not on the list , doesnt mean we cant action it

however there are also rules like " Logging into other players for personal gain " that can also be used here

if somebody is to log into your account ( apart from UW that stephen himself has allowed under certain conditions above ) they are not allowed to do anything on your empire other than set vacation mode.

there are numerous reasons for it and many rules to cover it
species382
99+ day(s) ago
well, if 2+ people in one house form one ip play one empire, how can you catch them? One could monitor, how long people are sleeping..... and even from different ip's its quite hard to distinguish between one guy playing from home+work and 2 guys.... so basically, one should allow the playing of one empire by more people.

Common, that is way less diabolic than one player having two empires.....
Deiloche
99+ day(s) ago
Maruadian: Okay. Seems a bit weird that game rules would be allowed to be broken for UWs, but... works for me.
Luminara
99+ day(s) ago
Salyn: Or maybe tell him it`s an alternative to cleaning his room...
Plus, he can IM while he`s doing it, so he won`t get bored that way.
You could punish your kid... tell him to do 450 turns (RT) of infra research and think about it.... =P
GalacticMercenaries
99+ day(s) ago
I know a person that played and his friend would play to and he anser my pms
TheShadow
99+ day(s) ago
humm sounds like i should do that Salyn then i can go watch TV.
UberPansy
99+ day(s) ago
lol Salyn =D
Salyn
99+ day(s) ago
Try getting your kid to click even for 15 minutes and he`ll know what boring really means. Unless you tell him that for every 1 level of infra he gets a toy of his choice.
Anfit
99+ day(s) ago
hell, i just took my time and read all the "house rules" with appendixes. i see NO place where it says it`s illigal for two people to play the same empire from the same IP. okay, it`s kind of boring, but why the hell no?
not that anyone would ever find out, i bet i often spend more time online than any normal family ever would, one after another (20h a day at times, beat that), but ... hey, Maraudian, don`t make up new, lame and unenforcable rules... ><
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
Maraudian... just out of curiousity... for example...

IF there are 2 ppl (let`s say A & B) in 1 house and playing on 1 pc with a single empire... "A" would prefer maintain the empire, digging most of the time and attacking once awhile frm 2pm-10pm... while "B" will play whenever "A" isn`t playing, probably 10pm onwards... and all this, while only 1 empire on that particular pc frm day one...

so what`s the verdict? is it legal OR it isn`t?

personally, i don`t see it`s illegal... but hey... i`m just a newbie player... so i`m curious what will the GMAs do in this scenario... :/
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago
UW`s have there own set of rules , 2 people playing 1 account is against the game rules , UW has an exception as anfit pointed out
ShatterdDreams
99+ day(s) ago
lol i could really care less either way i just wanted to make a thread

*jumps on his bicycle and flys off to some place not so far away....not to close either...maybe like down the road or something..*
Deiloche
99+ day(s) ago
Maraudian... you are incorrect if it is from the same computer, as anfit stated. It is, in fact, in the rules that that is explicitly allowed. So yeah, SD... by the rules that would be fair, lmao.
pWn3dN3wb13
99+ day(s) ago
nah, AGM, the yellow light is way too annoying... And about 2 people on 1 pc, you can never prove someone is doing that, can`t you?
AGM94
99+ day(s) ago
I think it is more people not reading pms at all than not answering them but i could be wrong
Anfit
99+ day(s) ago
Maraudian. from the same computer? i do remember some entry on "squatting" UWs and such..., hell most of the UWs i know involved a friend or a relative coming over to help, say, Cascones` dad
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago
2 people playing 1 account would be against the rules -_-
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
well... no one is forcing anyone to answer their PMs... but in this game, IF you don`t answer certain PM/s promptly... oh well... good luck on having a field day explaining to the GMAs... lol...

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