Maraudian
2007-02-22 |  | L Class For Guardian |  |
Same as before suggest away , no enflame arguing ect , then we will work it all out
Suggested PR`s
L garnet @ 35k pr
L Emerald @ 65k PR
L topaz @ 70k pr
L.Garnet
Scanner rating -600
Ship Attributes
Defense Modifier
Energy Shield - 20 %
Absorption Shield - 10 %
ECM + 50 %
Ionized Hull - 10 %
upkeep - 483
L. Emerald
Scanner rating - 1200
Ship Attributes
Defense Modifier
Energy Shield - 20 %
Absorption Shield - 10 %
ECM + 55 %
Ionized Hull - 20 %
upkeep - 453
L.Topaz
Missile Dmg + 2,000
Scanner rating -1000
Ship Attributes
Defense Modifier
Energy Shield - 20 %
Absorption Shield - 10 %
ECM + 60 %
Ionized Hull -30 %
upkeep - 425
Edited by Maraudian on 2007-03-01 |
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jakomaekel
99+ day(s) ago | nice to game |
Deiloche
99+ day(s) ago | The garnet still blows... the emerald still blows... the topaz doesn`t look too bad, though. Drop the PR on the garnet to 35k and raise the damage on the emerald to 30k and they will start looking more respectable. But as it stands, the garnet barely manages a 1 Hull/PR ratio with a laughable offensive rating and the emerald just outright sucks. :P |
Seifer
99+ day(s) ago | garnet at 40k is laughable . only reduced pr by 2k . i support 35k garnet ^^ |
Archaeoptyrex
99+ day(s) ago | Oh then, I think most are happy with
35-40k
55-65k
60-70k
I would go to the left end of that scale, others to the other end. But these are reasonable changes and won`t overpower =)
Something in the middle is probably ideal! =) |
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago | oh no , no decreased from what it already is , just decreased from my suggested range |
Archaeoptyrex
99+ day(s) ago | Garnet range decreased?? Why! ?? |
Augustini
99+ day(s) ago | Still way too much PR goes to the scanner ratings.... it needs to be reduced further for any real impact imo. |
Hiigarans
99+ day(s) ago | i no longer have problem with the new L class now. maybe i will read this thread if any suggestion come in :) |
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago | ok so we have a little bit of a mix , some say lower , some so be carefull
yet the main ship bouncing up and down is the topaz, the rest seem fine
so maybe a little more something to make up for topaz being the strongest ...? |
Deiloche
99+ day(s) ago | I like a range 10 in every race only because it`s silly to drop the borrelly range to 8. But if the borrelly HAS to remain range 8... then it`s pointless for a guardian to have a range 10. |
Gronoria
99+ day(s) ago | don`t think lowering pr even more is a good idea, the L class will be very usable anyway. Don`t forget that Guardians are supposed to be HARD to play -_-
This is enough imo:
L garnet @ 35k pr
L Emerald @ 65k PR
L topaz @ 70k pr |
AGM94
99+ day(s) ago | dont know who to work out fair mineral increase :P |
Hiigarans
99+ day(s) ago | AGM> nah, Topaz range just stay as 8. dont change it :)
well, prehaps ur pr suggestion is better. L class already got no retal ability. i have no comment on other.
dont forget to minor increase the mineral cost as L class is become better now OR maybe just keep it :) but i guess G class must minor increase the mineral cost :D |
Archaeoptyrex
99+ day(s) ago | those look usable =) |
AGM94
99+ day(s) ago | topaz at 63k pr(africas suggestion)
range stayed 8(looking at ship class maybe it should be lower or changed to a destroyer with range 9)
scanner 6k
attack/pr = 0.28
hull/pr = 1.41
Emerald(54032 pr)
range 9
scanner 6500
attack/pr 0.37
hull/pr 1.11 |
AGM94
99+ day(s) ago | agree garnet should stay at 35k will have a look at the others now |
Archaeoptyrex
99+ day(s) ago | I was relatively happy with those pr`s Maraudian (35, 65, 70), since there is a risk of overpowering guards which is perhaps the worst thing that could happen because of the build rate.
garnet 35k is fine -- any lower and you gotta start dropping the hull
sure emmy and topaz can be dropped further, since they were so bad. |
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago | so everyone seriously wants the pr dropping more below
L garnet @ 35k pr
L Emerald @ 65k PR
L topaz @ 70k pr
sorry but 2 replies over night , its almost like nobody cares -_- |
AGM94
99+ day(s) ago | i think the guard capital ships with multiple attacks count as k class |
Africa
99+ day(s) ago | I like the way things are goin, but I still think the pr are to high
Emmy ~ 55 k
garnet ~ 30 k
topaz ~ 63 k
They have become much better, no doubt, but they were also unbelievable bad before.
And I not against multi damage ships. Every other race has their cap missile ships as multidamage, tyr, angel, herc, lyth, pyth etc.
But in general, good work. Also on the g class( same goes for prs on those, make them lower yet) |
