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Maraudian
2007-02-22
  G class For Guardian  

Suggested Power Rating`s
G Agate 12k to 12.5k pr
G Amethyst 20k to 22k pr
G Quartz 35k to 38k pr
G Corundum 63k to 68k pr
Flourite 70k to 75k pr
Diamond 130k to 150k pr
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G.Agate
Scanner Rating -500
upkeep -312
Range +2

Ship Attributes
Defense Modifier
Energy Shield + 99 %
Absorption Shield - 30 %
ECM - 20 %
Ionized Hull - 20 %
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G.Amethyst
Scanner Rating -600
Upkeep -396
Range +1

Ship Attributes
Defense Modifier
Energy Shield + 99 %
Absorption Shield - 20%
ECM - 20 %
Ionized Hull - 20 %
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G.Quartz

Scanner Rating -700
upkeep -317

Ship Attributes
Defense Modifier
Energy Shield + 99 %
Absorption Shield - 10 %
ECM - 20 %
Ionized Hull - 20 %
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G.Corundum
Scanner Rating -800
upkeep -308
Rutile cost +10

Ship Attributes
Defense Modifier
Energy Shield + 99 %
Absorption Shield - 40 %
ECM - 20 %
Ionized Hull - 20 %
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G.Fluorite
Scanner Rating -900
Rutile cost +20
upkeep - 318

Ship Attributes
Defense Modifier
Energy Shield + 99 %
Absorption Shield - 30 %
ECM - 20 %
Ionized Hull - 20 %
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G.Diamond

Weapon 20,000
Energy Damage 10,000 ( +3k )
Kinetic Damage 10,000 ( +3k )
Missile Damage 0
Chemical Damage 0

Scanner -1000
upkeep -446
Rutile cost +20

Ship Attributes
Defense Modifier
Energy Shield + 80 %
Absorption Shield -40 %
ECM + 30 %
Ionized Hull +15%

Edited by Maraudian on 2007-03-01
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago
Deiloche : go energy spam it , t garu will do to show you =)

( tip : it dies )
Deiloche
99+ day(s) ago
The diamond finally looks like an actual starbase now, at least. That`s good. :)

What is the point of raising it`s energy shield to 80% from 60%, though? That`s... pointless. Give that percentage to something that could possibly use it... like maybe 15% gain on the missile shield instead. The gain on the energy shield is purely for show. :P
Augustini
99+ day(s) ago
I could go with a diamond with only 150 scanner along with weap and shield upgrade...
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago
Diamond at 100k would be majorly evil o.o

yar the scanner is the problem , but lowering to to 130-150 is more than enough i would think , especially with dmg + and shield update
Augustini
99+ day(s) ago
Maraudian - I see the problem with the Diamond then... 21.500 scanner !?! now what good would that do?? it`s not like this can explore or anything !!

take 10-15k out of the scanner and the Diamond would be usefull... as it is now, allmost anything can beat it... that scanner rating does the majority of 100k PR !!!!
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago
Augustini

starbase has 3 good shields ( and has been suggested it gets a bit more fire power )
Archaeoptyrex
99+ day(s) ago
Still reckon they have too much scanner (esp corun, fluo, diam) but we`re just going round in circles. A slight improvement is sufficient for most guards
Augustini
99+ day(s) ago
I`d like that at least 1 of the G.Class ships would have 3 positive shield mods... i think all the other races have at least 1...

Maybe introduce a G.Class Battleship or Juggernaught
Hiigarans
99+ day(s) ago
i no longer have problem with the new G class now. maybe i will read this thread if any suggestion come in :)
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago
lol @ eternuts
Deiloche
99+ day(s) ago
Flourite Cruiser 16,000 80,000 6 81,927 6,000

I assume that that is a typo and should be:

Flourite Cruiser 16,000 180,000 6 81,927 6,000

Yep it should and considering its a direct c+p and the source is right no idea how i managed it =/

Edited by Eternus on 2007-02-25
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago
yar even though G and L are imrpoved
they will still suck alone

so hmm more damage on starbase , that one seems ok
Gronoria
99+ day(s) ago
well my last post wast entirely serious lol, It was more directed towards Africa :P

It would be totally insane if any of these G class ships would become like the lictor
AGM94
99+ day(s) ago
dont worry gron i dont intend on massively changing things and i cant see these becoming like lictor as we are keeping mods similar(not all positive) and they arent getting new attacks
Gronoria
99+ day(s) ago
I won`t let you smother me!

Just look what happened to the G lictor, it owns now and virals are using it! :S
Africa
99+ day(s) ago
I think we need grono to be quiet ;)
Gronoria
99+ day(s) ago
I don`t think G class should be to radically changed
AGM94
99+ day(s) ago
i think it should stay the same range anyway just putting some ideas out for comments :P
Hiigarans
99+ day(s) ago
AGM> if the hull of Corundum go down, other G class will need to drop some hull too. it also affect the pr. there is a big chain effect here. we must think carefully on it if u decide to drop hull.

IMO, i dont think G class need to get higher range. they r ok with what they should :) anyway, no retal ability, i think Flourite can have it, so to Quartz.
AGM94
99+ day(s) ago
Diamond(will be quiet a few different ideas probably just need feedback)

pr135031
hull 200000(-40000)
attack 40000(+36000)
energy 20k
kinetic 20k
scanner 12k
hull/pr 1.48
attack/pr 0.29
chemical shield -20%

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