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Gilead
2007-01-24
  My Thors got sick :S  

It seems ship disease is spreading.... last week it only was Tyrs that got sick... but now Thor start dying as well.... How do I explain this to the parents of the fighters in my Thors?

In my opinion there is no good reason why my Thors died..... even without using the Battle sim, which admins/guides will say you shouldn`t, I can think of a reason why the Thors died....

but as Maraudian and quaint stated last week, they know what happened to teh Tyrs (in battles by DrunkenMasters and Brumen), so maybe you can explain what happened to my Thors?

3:39 AM 24/01/07
xxxxx attacked you. Attack was successful !

Name Units Casualties Remaining
xxxxx`s fleet
Nirvana Dreadnought 160 25 135
Hercules Juggernaught 37 9 28
Gilead`s fleet
D.Angel Battleship 17 17 0
V.Chiron Starbase 18 18 0
Hercules Juggernaught 7 0 7
Pyth Battleship 14 14 0
Strafez Queen 320 0 320
M.Flysch Battleship 18 0 18
P.Thor Destroyer 80 80 0
Pike Destroyer 80 0 80
Large Strafez Runner 200 0 200
V.Borrelly Destroyer 100 0 100
HoneyBucket{HH}
99+ day(s) ago
that`s what happened DK.
DarckKnight
99+ day(s) ago
*ponders @ HB post about nirvs and hercs killing a few thors, what that got to do with this situation? lol
Global}{Galactica
99+ day(s) ago
rtfm.....
HoneyBucket{HH}
99+ day(s) ago
maybe your thors were feeling extra ballsy any decided to attack the hercs... it`s hard to say mate but it`s not impossible for them to have died in this situation without a bug happening.
Gilead
99+ day(s) ago
HoneyBucket{HH}: have you even looked at the battle? Its not like my Thors were the opposing stacks of the Nirvs or Hercs.... If my Thors would have been in my top stacks, then, Yes ofcourse, the Hercs or Nirvs would have killed them... but as the Thors were flanking, they should not have been damaged....

or if it is right that my Thors got killed, then why didn`t my pikes die????
HoneyBucket{HH}
99+ day(s) ago
Loof as you pointed out that`s how "flanking" "normally" works... some things in battle happen extremely often as in almost all the time and then act different sometimes... it`s a part of randomness... which could cause "bug" like affects as they will produce results that are different once in a while.
HoneyBucket{HH}
99+ day(s) ago
This is not a bug... has anyone ever seen Nirv or Herc kill a few Thor? if not you have fought very little it would seem.
brown
99+ day(s) ago
i got like 30 pyths one time :P
TheShadow
99+ day(s) ago
you should say P.Zues
Gilead
99+ day(s) ago
Loof: lol :P
Loofain
99+ day(s) ago
emeralds was sick to begin with lol
LastCrusader
99+ day(s) ago
is everyones missle ships gettin sick? 1st it was the tyrs .. now P,Thors .. wats next Emerlds?!?!
DrunkenMasters
99+ day(s) ago
Well, it is a bug, one of many, but I don`t think it will be removed...
Loofain
99+ day(s) ago
this is how flanking works Most of the time:

xxx`s fleet
D.Angel Battleship 1,758 883 875
V.Borrelly Destroyer 9,204 6,897 2,307
Pyth Battleship 183 183 0
Small Strafez Fodder 52,381 52,381 0
Hercules Juggernaught 60 60 0
Tyr Dreadnought 189 189 0
Small Strafez Runner 240 240 0
Large Strafez Runner 50 50 0
Large Strafez Fodder 90 90 0
Pike Destroyer 8 8 0
Loofain`s fleet
V.Chiron Starbase 170 170 0
Hercules Juggernaught 68 68 0
Strafez Queen 3,400 3,400 0
V.Borrelly Destroyer 6,666 2,099 4,567
Pike Destroyer 2,222 321 1,901
Tyr Dreadnought 202 0 202
D.Angel Battleship 111 0 111
Large Strafez Runner 5,555 0 5,555
Pyth Battleship 43 0 43
M.Flysch Battleship 80 1 79

as you can see more or less all my ships save the pyth who just got lucky got no retal, and therefore dont die, those thors getting killed (as the tyrs in drunkens and brumens threads) are just an odd bug imo
BrumenCMDC
99+ day(s) ago
I can see only 3 explanations (or combinations thereof) for this sudden and apparently contagious disease (that seems to affect only virals, lol):

1. This is a bug. If so, it should be looked into and possibly fixed.
2. Ship specials were changed without us players being aware of it. If so, it should be explained and motivated.
3. Battle rules were changedwithout us players being aware of it. If so, it should be explained and motivated.
Gilead
99+ day(s) ago
Maraudian: true that it wouldn`t have won me the battle (althoug the spammer was lucky, if he does this 10 times he will lose at least 6-7 times :P)

it did however cause me to lose 2 cols instead of 1.... (I think) because of the lost Thors my lost PR went from 48.7% to just above 50%... (and 50% is the border, right?)

fleak2: I am still trying to get your statement straight.... but it must be the stelogic that doesn`t go well with my brain :P
OnDante
99+ day(s) ago
Maybe we should ask Stephen, so he could say "Hmmm, I`ll have to think about that." Then he would go and remove the attack feature from the game because people were abusing it.
fleak2
99+ day(s) ago
well let me see if i am right

there is some thing in the battle where ur ships will still get countered even if they are not in that stack as long as there is flanking

another thing is that when flanking you can still lose ships except for... fodders

i dont know why it is this case but flanking with ships with the " no retaliation " function does not really confirm the safety of ur ships.

cos the way no retal works is that the thors fire and only 80 ships would be able to be stopped by that function.

after that there is still a retal back

which is why there are sometimes when attacking, the battle report would say: XXX`s nirvana attacked YYY`s v.borelley
40 v.borelleys are killed
5 nirvanas are lost in the attack

that should be the case of the flanking ur p.thors did
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago
stelogic , its impossible to accurately calculate , just rough estimate and it takes a long time to do that unless you sim it up , but well something did destroy them in combat

but anyhows , even if those 80 p thor wernt destroyed the atack would have been a win on his side
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago
hmm good point ^_^

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