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Belial
2006-12-13
  Ship Update?  

Well, for the 3rd time now i sent the email containing the ship update for GC (After i lost it and had to recompile it myself)

I`ll paste the main changes below, this is just soem fo the rough notes i had lying about, they may not be final, stephen might say no, or might get changed before then, mostly focusing on Miner and Collective.

Miner -
M. Hal Shield 3 0 --> 0.3
G. Livid* Shield 2 -0.95 --> -0.4
Shield 3 -0.95 --> -0.4
G.Livid (r)* Shield 2 -0.95 --> -0.4
Shield 3 -0.95 --> -0.4
G.Lictor Shield 2 -0.6 --> 0.5
Shield 3 0.45 --> 0.5
Shield 4 0 --> -0.45

Collective

R.Pinnacle Shield 1 -0.2 --> -0.1
Shield 4 0.2 --> 0
Build Rate 35 --> 150
R.Sloop Shield 1 -0.3 --> -0.15
Shield 4 -0.2 --> -0.1
Build Rate 8 --> 115
H.Galleon



New Ships

H.Wan-O-War Shield 1 0.6 Weapon 1 0
Shield 2 0.99 Weapon 2 50
Shield 3 0.99 Weapon 3 50
Shield 4 0.8 Weapon 4 0
Hull 1200 Power 402
Upkeep 176 Build Rate 60

H.Brigantine Shield 1 0 Weapon 1 0
Shield 2 0.1 Weapon 2 0
Shield 3 0.1 Weapon 3 100
Shield 4 0 Weapon 4 100
Hull 300 Power 203
Upkeep 90 Build Rate 120

Other Races

Maru -
Sting Shield 2 -0.25 --> 0.3
Shield 4 0.2 --> 0

Viral -
Borelly Range -1
Chirion Range -2


Sorry about the messed up formatting

Credit goes to Freakn, Maurdian and myself

Feedback is welcome though will probably give it a chance live for a while before changes are made unless something has totally missed me, Trolls and flames aint =P

If this isnt uploaded in one week without reason please email stephen@gamestotal.com requesting it, the full copy is there in his email inbox

Belial

Edited by Belial on 2006-12-13
Tracy
99+ day(s) ago
BUMP.
If he says he never got the update.. Well here it is. Fill in the FEW BLANKS there are.
there IS a list. this is part of it.
If you want to see this change speak up. Keep bumping the thread. link stephen to it. Dont just sit around - do something.
Dreamland
99+ day(s) ago
we should sue him for money fraud :P we gave him funds for the update and it was never delivered...like giving an inventor money just to have him run off with it :P cough cough thief stephen cough cough
freakn
99+ day(s) ago
anyone e-mailing?
Tracy
99+ day(s) ago
Its been a month. Wheres the update?
freakn
99+ day(s) ago
also fyi, the increased collective build rate is so that a collective can reach mid level PR and fight without spending an eternity, and if so desired, can get to high PR

Also, fyi, adding ships and research items is in total a 5 minute process followed by a server restart. I have seen Treglen do it on the 1.06 beta back in the day.
freakn
99+ day(s) ago
What about having a 25% or 50% capture rate on the R class ships for Collective?
DreamlandReformed
99+ day(s) ago
though what trees will be done?
DreamlandReformed
99+ day(s) ago
wo0tm more fun as collective but why such high build rates for sloop? reckon barkentine should be upgraded to actually defeat a garuda spam when attafking, but yay can`t wait for it, hopefully miner bases upgrade next :)
Hiigarans
99+ day(s) ago
beside the current H class, Collective should get a Enegry-based dmg as main weapon for a H class unit which will allow them to capture some ships like Hercules.

also, i would like to suggest that the food for Collective consume reduce 50% (cause they r half brog). increase the build rate of some ships too
Hiigarans
99+ day(s) ago
i would say leave the Borelly range but remove the capture ability after RE all ships. any Destroyer with less than 8 range is suk. u can use the mission to force them finish the RE before continue the next mission.

ex: act1 mission2: RE 3 Miner ships. act1 mission3 RE Terran ships. act1 mission4 RE Marauder ships. so, Viral will have to RE Terran ships after they finish RE Miner.

no doubt, Chiron range must reduced. in general, stabase shouldnt have longer range than Destroyer class units (except the Miner).
DarkDragoon
99+ day(s) ago
Yawn /slaps belial ... -1 borr -2 chiron :S
becuzimbrown
99+ day(s) ago
i like the updates belial good job :)
Varna
99+ day(s) ago
Sounds awesome.
You left the H. Galleon change blank on purpose?

Has anything been considered for a Bark upgrade?
Something of the sort

H. Barkentine
Shield 1: +.2 --> -.2
Shield 2: +.1 --> 0
Shield 4: +.2 --> -.2
Hull 5000 --> 4500

And Weapon 3: 900 --> 1800 OR An actual capturing ability
Archaeoptyrex
99+ day(s) ago
go for it anyways Belial as it is :)
Time for me to have a collective empire anyways
Karolinerna
99+ day(s) ago
looks good to me and while u at it, try make him advertise GC also cause lack of players is the main reason game turning dull lately. but good work on the ships =)
species382
99+ day(s) ago
Pandy: " you know its all those ones that say no do this do that,..."

actually i aggreed with the very most of belial suggestions, just maked some comments, for example, that the Wan-O-War is way over the top.

Pandy: "...i want i want, and are thinking about their own ships their own race and not actually thinking about a real balance..."

actually, i am a viral, and i would cut em even harder....
AssassinatorS
99+ day(s) ago
*claps Belials hard work even if it comes to nothing :)

it was a pleasure playing a game around a guy like you even if i have to leave if stephen does update like he said hes going to...
Razgriz
99+ day(s) ago
more for aminer =)
AlphaCentauri
99+ day(s) ago
agreed, i know belial you`ve already said you cant do anything about it but the biggest problem with virals is cheap maru ships.

and yea i cant figure out the mods with the new formatting but i assumre they`re all good :)
Pandy
99+ day(s) ago
you know its all those ones that say no do this do that, i want i want, and are thinking about their own ships their own race and not actually thinking about a real balance like belials worked his bottom off for who are most likely the cause of stephen saying that he`s getting rid of all of the shields and weapons.

so have a think about that when you post, and read my post about notfrom admin above it on the gc update "minor" changes then think about what you are saying here and understand that you are merely enforcing those very changes you are all arguing against in the other post.

No one is ever satisfied are they.

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