Rocinante
2015-04-29 |  | UW Reward ships on TB? A joke |  |
I left the game in 2010 and came back to some interesting changes.
I love the UW rewards in theory, they stimulate activity, I get it, but the Reward ships on TB are just a laugh.
Congrats to all those folks who joined the dominant fed, ran their UWs, and then repeatedly hit players and then just spam the UW Reward ship as a defense.
You are real masters of stacking and defending. (rolls eyes)
The horse is out of the barn on this one, I am sure that players who "earned" those ships would cry like babies if they were taken away.
But it sure doesn`t promote interesting game play. |
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Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago | As a person who has one of these "over powered" ships, I can tell you right now, they aren`t THAT over powered. Useful, yes, but the build rate isn`t that great compared to other ships, and they aren`t super hard to kill. It would be very hard for me to spam the ship and still be able to actually win.
The real problem isn`t the ships, it`s the fact that we have a community that`s constantly shrinking because the original DEV is only doing the minimum necessary to just keep the servers going, not actually continuing to add new content. |
AdmiralSarek
99+ day(s) ago | The main problem on Ultra is the lack of opposition to the main fed, not the UW ships, I joined the server to try and provide some, sort of works. |
AdmiralSarek
99+ day(s) ago | Well the UW ship I got on normal speed is almost un-usable in any numbers as I have a guardian empire.
But yes when spamed they can be good if they hit your fleets week spot, but once you know they are there they are easy to smash. |
Rocinante
99+ day(s) ago | LOL at Pistol Pete.
My point is that the UW ships are too powerful and were too easy to acquire. I don`t care if you blew up a 3 month old or a 10 year old empire to do it, it was a breeze either way and the ships make for lazy play.
Who`s whining now? |
Brotherhood
99+ day(s) ago | Activities on TB was already in the toilet before the Uw ship proposal. Alot of the reason was stated by sibi already. And it did do the job, cause those empires that had deadlock on the server did blow up, and the opportunity was givin for other players. Problem is the active players had already givin up. Was just too late is all. Seems to be a pattern when it comes to that. Takes two years for the fix to actually be implemented. |
Renegade
99+ day(s) ago | Didn`t do much for activity on TB :P |
Travvivian
99+ day(s) ago | Exactly, it was going to happen (continue) one way or another. I`m pretty certain that if you were to graph the loss of active players over the years, the trend would have remained unchanged after the introduction of the UW rewards.
Meanwhile, it is undeniable that they accomplished their short term goal of upticks in activity from those still here. |
PistolPete
99+ day(s) ago | You whine because you ran into Mastas UW ship spam?
May i remind you that masta did not join the dominant fed. Together with the rest of us his made us dominant. Had a 7 year old empire he blew up to get the UW ships... |
Renegade
99+ day(s) ago | @ Trav - The incentives are great for RT. Issue is they should have never been offered to TB. All it did was encourage string UW`s by the same players causing TB to lose literally everyone else.
Entirely the opposite of their intended effect - Though tbh that was bound to happen thanks to the dig times and fed parity anyway. |
Rocinante
99+ day(s) ago | Trav, LMAO, that was a good laugh, even if it was at my expense. Sorry to pout. Cheers.
*tips cap |
Travvivian
99+ day(s) ago | But no, no the game is not what it once was. We`re the stubborn clingers, stuck to the toilet bowl after the great turd of a game named GC was flushed, over half a decade ago.
I`m plenty nostolgic, doesn`t mean I`m going to pout when I break my dlck off during a retal. Just saying. |
Travvivian
99+ day(s) ago | They were begun to help motivate players to hit the red button, thereby increasing server activity. Which they arguably accomplished... I personally know of a good few folks that UW`d exclusively for the rewards.
No one will do so for another fluffer of a subpar neutral. |
Rocinante
99+ day(s) ago | I also remember a time when spamming was considered lazy play/bad form/no fun, and the debate was whether spammers were duffers who didn`t bother to track other players they battled/didn`t know how to stack/didn`t know how to play.
If being nostalgic for the good old days is considered being a cry baby, then I guess you`ve got my number.
The game is not what it was, we can at least agree on that.
MastaKilla/Achelleus urges me via PM to just quit if I don`t like it -- so you can see how hard he`s working to build it back up. |
Rocinante
99+ day(s) ago | All I am Trav is a player who has been around long enough to remember when a UW on TB actually meant something.
Renegade has it right, a tweak would go a long way to fix the problem, the ships are overpowered, especially as a reward for a turn based UW. I think they should only be given for an RT UW, since that is the only server that continues to have relative fed parity. |
Achilleus
99+ day(s) ago | I`m so sorry I made a Zwei spam Rocinante! Next time I will just spam bull or pike and the result will be the same when you run a massive fez fleet into it. That`s also cheaper for me :-)
I agree that the ships are good, not really OP, since they all have fairly low hull and can be killed from below if they know you have it. They really earn their right in stacks, since for instance miners now have 2 more no retal ships with good damage, so they can actually fight aggressively.
Think about what is most OP. Pete and I on fast had empires who could sit at 100-200mil fleets with massive arti stacks... Basically no one would have a chance on getting rank control unless they came in massive numbers with big empires. Now we blew them up, and I haven`t been above 1mil PR with this empire. I think that balances things out a bit... |
Travvivian
99+ day(s) ago | Who are you?
I don`t particularly see the huge issue with them. Great ships, yes. It`s not like they`re invulnerable by any means though. And personally, it`s pretty rare that I`ve actually used them to any real extent. (Let alone spam them. Hah.)
This just sounds like someone forgot to call the Whaaamubulance to my ears. *Shrug* |
Renegade
Game-Admin
99+ day(s) ago | I disagree partially. I think the people who did them deserve them well enough, they did the UW, they earned the ship.
What I think is bad are the UW ships in general. They are a little too strong in my opinion, and I think everyone who has them would attest to this fact. I think they should be toned slightly, and I have been saying this since before they were even implemented. Unfort no one listens to me :P
Just my 2 cents anyway. |
