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Ragnarok
2012-01-16
  RC/WC miners wanted! Normal  

Red Crystal and White Crystal Miners are wanted on Normal Server!!!

Shortage will only get worse!! Apply now and make HUUUGE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!! Free cookies and ice cream to first 10 folks to post minerals or change race/income path.

(Hopefully Apollo doesn`t chime in and point out any more glaringly embarrassing mistakes). :P
NiHiLiM
99+ day(s) ago
will make UW`s much.. much.. harder :p
PistolPete
99+ day(s) ago
The reason why there is no minerals at fast is because there is excess money production, so people convert their money into minerals, that they know will never be used. But you are right about that being a problem - at fast and RT. So maybe we should just make a cap on how much minerals you can have... Lets say 50 mil or something like that.
Apollo
99+ day(s) ago
@PistolPete

Extra cost for building reversed engineered ships - Viral (if this was changed to 3x mineral cost... lol at you mineral count after building lyth)

also iirc all updates affect the servers equally, making this a nightmare for fast.
PistolPete
99+ day(s) ago
Actually.. The more i think about it. Why not remove the cost of the ships and make them more mineral expensive instead, to increase the demand for minerals. That might make mineral mining a viable income path at the slow servers.
PistolPete
99+ day(s) ago
The reason why noone wants to be a long term mineral miner is that the minerals wont sell. That said if you dont plan to build above 2 mil PR regularly mineral mining could work fine.

Fuzzy if everyone at the server build their most mineral expensive ships and uses all their turns on it everyday, then you might be rigth. But that aint the case.

The solution to this i dont know. Maybe nerf Tax as an income stream for miners. Or increase the mineral cost on all the terran and miner ships.
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago
"I mean you ragnarok and you MD are tax miners. You could research som mineral mining too - but you dont."

Already said I got 10 in mining, but i already have over 160 planets so it`s very hard to make new clusters (partly due to the fact that i only have 2-4 targets to hit on any given day).
Anfit
99+ day(s) ago
How about I cut your reserves to size?
grantweep
99+ day(s) ago
PP: rag said that he has researched 10 infra in mining.

My normal taxer already has a lot of infra...I dont research anymore it`s pointless. But I suppose I could have put some points into mining. Too late now.

My miner on fast does have a few infra levels in mining as well.
Fuzzy
99+ day(s) ago
I think server could probably consume about 500k-1 mil of each mineral per day, if not more. 1 C2 with lvl 33 mining would produce about 136k per turn....so there`s definitely space for a large min miner or a few smaller ones.
PistolPete
99+ day(s) ago
Ya i understood it that way. And i just think it is misleading to tell them that producing RC minerals is a good path. Because once the realise its not, they will just leave again.

I mean you ragnarok and you MD are tax miners. You could research som mineral mining too - but you dont.
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago
PP, this is an appeal to folks outside the server to join, or folks looking to do something new.
TheOttomanEmpire
99+ day(s) ago
I already started :).
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago
I`m one of the big taxer empires on normal server (hint hint, big $$$$$$ if you manage to enslave me and maintain that PR :P), and I got 10 levels of mining. Even 5 levels of mining is good if you are pure CG miner.

And dual income is awesome if one of them is mining. And with the new build rates, mining will be a much more viable income than it used to be simply because of the increased demand. As long as fighting and ship building is occurring, there will always be a demand, unless of course you play slow server where no one ever fights any more. =/
AlphaCentauri
99+ day(s) ago
i will gladly make RC, who wants to donate their RC clusters ;-)

actually i make quite a bit of minerals on normal, just not RC :(
grantweep
99+ day(s) ago
Lol, how sad is it that people are actually discouraging the idea of fixing a dying server?
grantweep
99+ day(s) ago
Charmander: you`d probably want to put more than 10 levels of infra in mining, I was just making an example of how easily you could start an empire and make some minerals and quick money.

For people who are new to TB, this would probably be a smart idea.
PistolPete
99+ day(s) ago
Well.. I had a mineral/CG split at normal. None of it sold. But ya I agree.. Whats the point in wasting infra levels instead of just finding the income you want and stick with it.
LIF
99+ day(s) ago
better idea -- become a taxer and buy more goods!
Charmander
99+ day(s) ago
Might be.. but dual income sucks, 10 lvls into mining is just 10 lvls wasted if you are a taxers.
grantweep
99+ day(s) ago
the point isn`t to start or restart a miner for the sole purpose of making RC. The beauty with miner is that you could easily make a hybrid miner. Or perhaps if you wanted a more casual empire like I was mentioning. One miner with 1 C2 with like 10 infra levels in mining could probably sell enough RC to help the shortage, without over saturating the market.

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