vehystrix
2011-04-21 |  | C. Aries and C.Gemini |  |
It`s a shame that these wonderful ships are so rarely used. I believe this is largely due to their buildrates, which are about 1/3rd and half that of the Ranger, and on par or below even the Viator II. Compared to combat ships, they`re building at 1/3rd or half that of the next slowest building ship, namely the light frigate.
Now I know that these ships are insane on defense, especially when noone`s expecting them, but that`s just it, noone`s expecting them because they`re not a viable ship to build whenever you want to make a defense that`s over 1M pr. May I suggest slightly raising their build rates, so that we may see these wonderful defensive ships being used a bit more trough out the ranks. (hey let`s be honest here, when was the last time you saw them being used as an actual part of a fleet, either in the top few stacks of a spam, or part of a balanced stack?)
Now, and I`m not saying I got any expert knowledge on how this may affect the game, but may I suggest upping the build rate of C.Aries by about a factor 2, and that of C.Gemini by a factor 1.5?
This would make the C.Aries build at 5,100 pr per turn as opposed to 2,550 pr.
The C. Gemini would then build at 7,290 per turn as opposed to 4,860 pr per turn.
To compare it to: The F.(Broad)Sword builds at about 11k pr per turn, making it a viable ship on both an offensive and defensive stack, but only if you`ve got the time to build it. It`s used on a regular basis, but not as often as to have it called a common ship.
Disclaimer: I have bee fighting in the mid pr range (1M-30M pr) for a while now, and these are just my observations and suggestions. Feedback is welcome, so is constructive criticism. Please do refrain from flaming or any negative critisism. Thank you |
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VeniVidiVici
99+ day(s) ago | i think i ve gotten close to 30mil before and if i am not wrong, chessrpg has also |
DrKsTGuArDiAn
99+ day(s) ago | Hellus?
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He`s alive, HE`S ALIVE! Muwahahaha * throws hands up in the air in a gesture of madness. Where was I? |
Hellus
99+ day(s) ago | Shattered I don`t know what is worse you spent the time building all those Aries or you saved those photo shots from 2007 :) |
FistOfNoRemorse
99+ day(s) ago | i hope for your sake SD your not still using WinXP |
Freelancer
99+ day(s) ago | @ vehystrix - i hadnt a clue what your fleet was when i hit ya.... was just lucky |
LegendKiller
99+ day(s) ago | ya thats not mad its insane lol...nice |
DraconianParadise
99+ day(s) ago | haha thats mad |
vehystrix
99+ day(s) ago | Oh wow.
606k aries, that`s 43h hours and 46 minutes worth of building them. Seems like a challenge. I may get to it someday.
Also, you lost EXACTLY 10M pr due to FOUNDERS` attack? and you also had EXACTLY 175M pr?
that`s some nice calculating right there |
ShatterdDreams
99+ day(s) ago | http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g464/zypher0195/ariesrevised.jpg?t=1303384758
there`s my most amount of Aries, it would have been more but i had to repair them after Founders hit me, then side decided to hit me and then shibby finally killed most of the aries off with his ever impressive Angel Spam so they lasted a wopping 3 battles at high pr, though after i rebuilt i kept the surviving aries under my 10th stack for a while afterwards.
17/09/07
12:56 AM shibumi
217,702,778 ShatterdDreams
149,596,686 Win
16/09/07
04:59 PM sidewinder
89,565,840 ShatterdDreams
175,000,000 Win
15/09/07
09:12 AM FOUNDERS
33,805,245 ShatterdDreams
165,000,000 Win
shibumi attacked you. Attack has failed !
Name Units Casualties Remaining
shibumi`s fleet
D.Angel Battleship 8,344 1,959 6,385
Pyth Battleship 624 613 11
Pike Destroyer 136 136 0
P.Thor Destroyer 105 105 0
C.Cancer Cruiser 89 89 0
F.Sword Destroyer 110 110 0
M.Chlorite Destroyer 91 91 0
Hercules Juggernaught 2 2 0
M.Flysch Battleship 12 12 0
V.Borrelly Destroyer 188 188 0
ShatterdDreams`s fleet
V.Borrelly Destroyer 66,454 66,454 0
C.Aries Corvette 548,144 489,027 59,117
Hercules Juggernaught 611 42 569
D.Angel Battleship 1,087 1 1,086
Pike Destroyer 6,033 0 6,033
Tyr Dreadnought 400 3 397
M.Chlorite Destroyer 4,197 0 4,197
P.Thor Destroyer 3,142 0 3,142
F.Sword Destroyer 4,093 4 4,089
M.Flysch Battleship 481 3 478
sidewinder attacked you. Attack has failed !
Name Units Casualties Remaining
sidewinder`s fleet
L. Emerald Destroyer 470 470 0
L.Garnet Frigate 660 536 124
Ruby Corvette 675 675 0
G.Agate Fighter 560 9 551
K.Hun-Li Destroyer 142 5 137
Strafez Queen 3,600 3,600 0
Tourmaline Fighter 448 448 0
G.Corundum Destroyer 22 22 0
K.Hun-Xe Cruiser 15 15 0
G.Fluorite Cruiser 10 10 0
ShatterdDreams`s fleet
D.Angel Battleship 1,338 251 1,087
Hercules Juggernaught 681 70 611
V.Borrelly Destroyer 68,309 1,855 66,454
C.Aries Corvette 583,925 35,781 548,144
Pike Destroyer 10,100 4,067 6,033
M.Flysch Battleship 828 347 481
Strafez Queen 6,067 6,067 0
F.Sword Destroyer 4,616 523 4,093
Tyr Dreadnought 400 0 400
M.Chlorite Destroyer 4,197 0 4,197
FOUNDERS counter-attacked you. Attack has failed !
Name Units Casualties Remaining
FOUNDERS`s fleet
G.Lictor 199 199 0
M.Lyth Dreadnought 333 333 0
M.Flysch Battleship 1,002 1,002 0
A.Aragonite Dreadnought 950 950 0
Large Strafez Fodder 5,400 5,400 0
G.Livid (r) Fighter 15 15 0
M.Chlorite Destroyer 34 34 0
M.Epidote Destroyer 22 22 0
M.Chlor Cruiser 4 4 0
M.Calcite Cruiser 3 3 0
ShatterdDreams`s fleet
C.Aries Corvette 606,000 22,084 583,916
V.Borrelly Destroyer 68,309 0 68,309
Hercules Juggernaught 555 36 519
D.Angel Battleship 1,078 0 1,078
Pike Destroyer 10,100 0 10,100
M.Flysch Battleship 740 0 740
F.Sword Destroyer 4,640 24 4,616
Strafez Queen 5,900 418 5,482
Tyr Dreadnought 400 0 400
M.Chlorite Destroyer 4,197 0 4,197
Edited by ShatterdDreams on 2011-04-21 |
vehystrix
99+ day(s) ago | Oh nice going there Freelancer. You lyth spammed aries down. May I state however that I was able to keep those borders for over a week wit that fleet? I was wondering how long it would take for someone to figure out I had some Aries up there and come with a missile ship on aggro.
This only proves my point: Aries is a great ship when it`s not expected. When someone knows you have it, the tables turn and suddenly the ship sucks arse. |
Forsaken
99+ day(s) ago | he is rude this one time he sold all these mins at half price how rude is that!! :D |
DarkRaist
99+ day(s) ago | I meant to say, you were rude right then, as I don`t deal with you on a daily basis I cannot say you are all the time. |
VeniVidiVici
99+ day(s) ago | i am not rude |
DarkRaist
99+ day(s) ago | Well, I did remove your name in the beginning as a polite aside to you, even though you happen to be rude...
Also it was to show my recent experiences with someone`s aries fleet. |
VeniVidiVici
99+ day(s) ago | erm why did u post my fleet there dark? everyone knows aries is weak to guardians mainly...you want a cookie now? |
DarkRaist
99+ day(s) ago | XXXX`s fleet
C.Aries Corvette 199,350 117,453 81,897
M.Calcite Cruiser 1,170 1,170 0
G.Lictor Juggernaught 32 32 0
Pyth Battleship 72 2 70
A.Aragonite Dreadnought 296 15 281
M.Flysch Battleship 196 0 196
G.Sapphire Destroyer 80 2 78
M.Lyth Dreadnought 46 0 46
M.Lakko Starbase 51 1 50
M.Chlor Cruiser 736 3 733
Colonies Captured
Name Type Land Size
E.5041 Balanced 219
Om nom nom |
DrKsTGuArDiAn
99+ day(s) ago | Aries is for offence and gemini for defence. |
Freelancer
99+ day(s) ago | sorry about the color, my bad im tired & typos happen... night |
Freelancer
99+ day(s) ago | XXXXXXXX`s fleet
M.Lakko Starbase 263 263 0
C.Aries Corvette 60,517 60,517 0
A.Kryo Starbase 1 1 0
A.Hoko Starbase 5 2 3
F.Axe Frigate 1 1 0
Light Frigate Frigate 1 1 0
Ranger Scout 1 1 0
M.Alium Corvette 1 1 0
Light fighter-drone Fighter 6 6 0
Seeker Scout 1 1 0
*Freelancer throws a shoe into the engine.... |
elemental
99+ day(s) ago | i used to use gemini all the time, at least, when i have enough time to do it, which is usually. as a collective, its not all that much slower than my race-specific ships. never really used aries, though. |
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