elemental
2011-01-31 |  | boost to collective capturing |  |
one of the biggest disadvantages to collectives is the small range of ships. i know collectives are supposed to capture ships mainly to boost their fleets, but the current capturing ships available to collectives are not effective enough in combat to capture enough ships
my suggestion is this:
add no retal specials to the h galleon, the r schooner, and the h man-o-war, and increase the range of the h brigantine ship. |
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Tikimana
99+ day(s) ago | oh oh oh I`ve got an idea !
When calculating the top 10 stacks that are allowed to be used in a battle... count all the stacks (from high to low) until 10 of them are of types that the race may build >:D
So if you`ve captured a lot of fat stacks, you may tuck all your self-constructed ships underneath those captured stacks, and have... like... 15 or more (depending on how much you capture / how large you build your own ships up).
It would encourage stacking, encourage Collectives to hold onto as many captured ships as they can, and make spamming pretty darn useless. |
DestroyerOfEmpires
99+ day(s) ago | if u wanna boost colelctive bring back tht fast building rate event again XD tht was so much fun.. loops r so much betta wen u cvan build them in bulk XD |
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago | Oh, and if you`re underage, you can press every number on the keyboard except number 9. If you do, your head will asplode like in the illustrations given in this website:
http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/A_Splode |
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago | Yea, and with all the tweaking involved we wouldn`t want the admins to be like this now would we:
http://www.monkeychops.karoo.net/mistertweakathon.html
So go on admins. If you tweak enough, you`ll be smexy like that guy.........especially if you take it to the "9th level".....you`ll understand when you go to the site. xD |
mazuku
99+ day(s) ago | It would need an amazing amount of tweaking and testing to get balanced.. |
elemental
99+ day(s) ago | true. i wonder how that would be handled |
mazuku
99+ day(s) ago | It would need a pretty severe time limit or limit to number of ships you could use for a certain time. As a decently active collective would be a tad over powered if they could build a fleet entirely of other races ships. |
elemental
99+ day(s) ago | most things require stephen. i wasnt expecting it to happen, just saying i support it. *sighs* |
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago | *rips himself out of fantasy land*
But remember boys and girls. It requires STEPHEN to implement. *Big shiny cruel grin*
Sorry to burst your bubble. :( |
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago | Actually, yea it would. To be able to build a ship as long as you had it in your fleet would actually be an awesome alternative to what virals use. It would make collectives keep ships in their lower stacks as "blue prints" if they don`t want to immediately use a ship right off the bat for some reason. Maybe being capable of building ships you capture up to 12 hours after you lose it too would be cool.
Keep them collectives actively fighting. :P |
elemental
99+ day(s) ago | that would be pretty useful |
Slavyzz
99+ day(s) ago | wtf would I do with a starbase after capturing it? Even less useful than the worthless stuff I capture already. If you want capturing to mean anything make me able to build anything I`ve captured ten of for as long as it is in my fleet. That would be a cool feature. I`m sure Stephen is crabping himself to get on that project. |
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago | Actually that`s not a bad idea, making starbases capturable. |
elemental
99+ day(s) ago | never mind the scouts, collectives cant use them, and viral already has some pretty good ones of their own. starbases, however, might be worth something |
Tikimana
99+ day(s) ago | let`s make scouts and starbases capturable |
Xylion
99+ day(s) ago | The biggest problem of the collective is to maintain a high pr. The best ships have low range (exept gal ofcourse) (snow is ok) pinnace, brig, sloop (terrible build ratio, not interesting above 5 mil on fast).
So the best tactic on high pr is to semi-spam (spam, boring) these brilliant short range ships. Adding up the schooner to that list is pretty useless, hull modifiers are crab. You will lose them easially soon enough. may help you out in one specific battle, make you lose in the following :(
Capturing ships is great, the miner lyth is taken easy. But if you have a hundred of those in your fleet your cash reserves will drop extremely fast. And during the resulting attack you`re most likely to lose a decent amount of your small collective ships. Rebuilding them is way to expensive and your left as a sitting duck. Waiting for the same miner you`ve hit to outbuild 3x your pr and waste the rest of your fleet. (destroying the lyths and rebuild is also not fast enough, goes for all other ships exept marauder ships)
A defencive tactic works best for the collective so why use a ship with extreme negative hull modifiers. make em the same way as the low range ships but with higher pr`s, so we can climb more easily.
Maybe then we`re getting to close to the guards? |
Tikimana
99+ day(s) ago | lol @ original post.
...but seriously now, Schooner would be a dozen times more helpful if it had 1 more range, bringing it to 10. Its shield weaknesses are certainly disastrous enough to allow for that. |
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago | I will take your suggestion to heart Freelancer. :) |
Freelancer
99+ day(s) ago | If there is really any good suggestions actually here i would put it in another thread, keep those good suggestions away from the bad ones. |
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago | That would be another way to go about it I suppose. I approve of this as well. ^_^ |
