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Ullr
2010-10-23
  Enslavement  

Is there a possibility we could change the way enslavement works? Maybe I`m not getting it, but it`s extremely difficult for me to get out of being a slave empire when my master empire has a power rating in the millions. Could this be changed to a lower level than 10 times the enslaving empire`s power? This system is just incredibly frustrating, as essentially I cannot beat enslavement unless I restart.
DrKsTGuArDiAn
99+ day(s) ago
We were all green at one point in time don`t worry about it., keep up the good work and continue to grow
Ullr
99+ day(s) ago
Yeah, what VALJA is saying sounds like a simple fix. Anyone in VM can`t keep slaves.... but I`d be happy with just an adjustment to the power ratio... Or even being allowed to attack your enslaver to vent some frustration and lower his PR.

And yes, I am new to GC. I guess I sound like a total greenhorn in this thread, but I`m learning, so whatever.
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
anyway... the issue here is VM abuse...

the admins can and should do something about it...

players wish to go for VM should be put on special PR below 5k...

when they go for vacation, they shouldn`t be bothered about ranks...

and IF they`re so "great", they can enslave back their slaves after VM...

so VM only for players that are sincere to get a break frm this game...

ok?
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
*stares at DrKsTGuArDiAn... among the shadows... waiting...
Slavyzz
99+ day(s) ago
@SPIKER You mean the normal 150+ pr?

@MajorDinero You are right asking someone to specifically attack you to enslave is against the rules. I suppose he could tell one of his friends to hunt him. And maybe he doesn`t want to lose any planets? Battle arranging is a tough subject, but I understand why the rules are in place.
SPIKER
99+ day(s) ago
you want to know what really sucks , did you know if someone has a fed war on you they can enslave you from 200+ pr insteadof the normal 140+ pr , its true i found out the hard way it happen to me , i thought it was a bug in the sever , but help center said with fed war on someone thet can enslave you from 200+ pr , chit , thats just wrong , : (
DrKsTGuArDiAn
99+ day(s) ago
Yeah, that would be Stephens territory. The following is a list of pros and cons for slavery.

Pro:

Win more battles
Horde more planets
Use this tactic yourself on others
Helps a bunch vrs fed war advantage
Master can reward enslaved empire

CONS:
less money earned
Look like a little girl to your friends
Must reach 10x pr to declare
Nunable to attack said master

If you have a really good master their are advantages all ego aside, their are other ways to break free but ill let you ask Valja lol." Me runs and hides at the mention of Valja "
MajorDinero
99+ day(s) ago
Slavyzz
0min(s) ago Tell your friends to hunt you down and enslave you. Don`t give them fleet information, don`t give them a pr range, don`t give them a time.

>_< not a good idea Slavyzz....but perhaps if the rules were rewritten that it`s okay to do this if someone enslaves you and VM. Maybe BW should step in and clarify.
Slavyzz
99+ day(s) ago
Tell your friends to hunt you down and enslave you. Don`t give them fleet information, don`t give them a pr range, don`t give them a time.
MajorDinero
99+ day(s) ago
VM is like the most abused thing in the game, but no one`s doing anything about it.

You sound like a relatively new player to GC, and it`s kinda sad that you might just quit cuz of a-holes that abuse VM and enslavement. If I were an admin, I`d instaban anyone that abuses VM.

Maybe you should start a petition so we can get BW to do something about it. That`s probably the most pragmatic advice I can give you
Ullr
99+ day(s) ago
And if someone is essentially abusing Vacation Mode isn`t that essentially a violation of the rules?
Ullr
99+ day(s) ago
I mean, wouldn`t a simple fix be to allow an Empire to declare independence after beating the enslaving empire in battle? It could be a special battle option. I`ve lurked enough that I know stephen doesn`t change things much, but if anyone could...
DrKsTGuArDiAn
99+ day(s) ago
Ullr if you need any thing else or have questions, just post here or you can pm me on rt
GL );D
SPIKER
99+ day(s) ago
i know , just kidding , ; )
MajorDinero
99+ day(s) ago
no SPIKER, battle arranging is not allowed :P
SPIKER
99+ day(s) ago
there is another way to get unenslaved , ANCENT CHINNESSE SECRET , ; )
Ullr
99+ day(s) ago
It just seems like a really crabtastic setup when the only option for leaving enslavement is to `ask nicely` or restart. But I appreciate the suggestions.
DrKsTGuArDiAn
99+ day(s) ago
Have you tried asking him nicely? It`s the number one fastest and cheapest method for you right now. On the flip side if his pr is high the reinforcements will help with holding a higher planet count.
Requiem
99+ day(s) ago
From the point of view of an enslaver:

Be patient. Unless you`re dealing with a VM enslaver (which i really hate and am disgusted at) a normal enslaver will eventually drop to try and get more slaves. When he does, rise and declare. (: if not, then sit back and make the most of his reinforcements.
grantweep
99+ day(s) ago
Slave Empire of Bentussi

one of the great VM enslavers. I empathize, sucks to be enslaved by him.

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