Khamon
2010-10-17 |  | UW pro`s and cons |  |
I hate to repost this but I want to form a petition for this server. When this game started an uw was devastating but with the vet clusters and rich empires they bounce back to soon making rt very unbalanced. In addition to 90% loss of resources I purpose 10% loss in land and infrastructure. It seems harsh but think about this, another 5 years from now you`ll have empires maxed out in 3 days after an uw as opposed to 1-2 weeks.
I feel real strongly about this and think it will tighten the gap between rich and poor. And gordor`s as a commodity will be in higher demand and will move empires to learn the art of making artis. |
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DrKsTGuArDiAn
99+ day(s) ago | Khamon you nub what were you thinking.);D |
HoneyBucket{HH}
99+ day(s) ago | I see many new players come and go after a few days all the time... if a tenth of them stayed we would have a much bigger players base and most of the current problems with gc would be eradicated.
I think that more of the players\staff should try to reaching out to the brand new players, give them a brief introduction to the game, make them feel welcome and accepted...... maybe if we could get them a free week long paid to get them started..... little things like this could make all the difference in the world.
*starts the save the n00bs foundation* |
ArchAng3l
99+ day(s) ago | Trying to attract newer player who have a much lesser possibilities to stay while pushing away old player who support gc all along? bad idea i guess.
We should come out with something which attract new player to stay while not taking things away from loyal players. |
GradualIncline
99+ day(s) ago | I`ve had an empire built since 03, you wipe out things I`ve spent years building with these ideas, I`m gone, others would leave, and I`d give this game a year, tops, before Stephen would bring down the game, since he`d be losing more money to have this game running than he`d be earning from paid accounts.
People periodically say ideas along this line every once in a while, usually people just starting up, backed up by those who`ve already done a UW, or those who race hop over and over. It`s like waiting for a guillotine to drop over the game. Thank goodness it`s been stalled out every time thus far when it comes up, for I do love the game, and would hate to see it ruined, like every other game I played back in high school. This is the only time I`ll post in this thread, and will no longer read or respond to it. *goes back to digging* |
HoneyBucket{HH}
99+ day(s) ago | *votes for a valja UW |
EvilLoof
99+ day(s) ago | VALJA
25hour(s) ago sorry Khamon... i play SFGC to build a long lasting empire... i`ve played more than 6 yrs and i`ve maxed all my infras... i never like UW since day one... so do you think i`ll agree to this?
You should VALJA then you could finally fix your infra and dont have a bit of everything lol
And Augustine no one thought the game would be here now a few years ago |
FOUNDERS
99+ day(s) ago | i propose we dont change a thing, some people change race every 2 days, some ppl dont do much infra. so why should ppl who spend a lot of time and turns lose the infra they have worked hard for. if you want to get your cash back up quickly after a uw then spend some turns maxing out infra. either that or use your cash to actualy fight the uw rather than sit back and cry about it. if everybody not supporting the uw actualy attacked it as much as they could it would more than likely fail. |
Augustine
99+ day(s) ago | we have a optimist thinking five years from now this game will even be around thats really unlikely |
Freelancer
99+ day(s) ago | This idea wont pass.... its a CON CON CON / LOSE LOSE LOSE situation. This idea would only benefit newer empires and hurt older empires that earned what they have somehow. This game is made up of vets, if we lose our vets this game would die. Think about where all the money comes from, tax/commercial empires. |
Mazuku
99+ day(s) ago | i guarantee if i was say BW or even myself with less than a 1/10th of his land I wouldn`t be happy to lose any of my hard earned land. The host fed would have to be immune to land loss for the idea to even have a shadow of consideration. However it would add another level of difficulty to UWing because there would be less out of fed support. As for closing the rich-poor gap the idea fails there and i highly doubt it would encourage playing of maru or coll. |
DrKsTGuArDiAn
99+ day(s) ago | Perhaps coll and maru could have an immunity to land loss, I just feel that th rich empires look forward to an uw so they can further distance themselves from the rest of the server. Perhaps this would give those 2 races an edge and encourage more players to play those races. |
wingnut
99+ day(s) ago | UW`s should truly destroy everyone. Just hard reset the game after a UW. |
Sibiriangun
99+ day(s) ago | I think it is an interesting idea with the loss of infra / arties. Land loss I will have to be against as it would be unfair for the unexplorable races. None of it would help the current issue though... old empires would still max out in no time... whats the difference if it happens in 5 days or 2 weeks?
But it would be interesting for the TB servers. Since the big feds controlling the servers would take the hardest blow from a UW assuming that they have the highest research/arti stores etc, so doing a UW might do more harm than good for them. |
KnightofNi
99+ day(s) ago | This would be the worst possible thing to happen for races that can`t explore. Giant effing no from me on this. |
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago | i think i`ve said enough about this issue...
carry on... i`m going into "don`t give a freaking care" mode now... cheers... |
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago | MajorDinero... IF i own this game, i know what i`m going to do with it to bring new players and keep old players happy at the same time... sadly... it`s Stephen`s...
i can see the winning formulas on other games that SFGC is too proud to accept.. all players are still a normal human being in RL... who`s going to admit that they`re not interested to win anything in RL? so what`s the different in any other game we`re playing?
i prefer solution that consist of a "shortcut" for new players to blend in... and at the same time, the old players would love to stay on without worrying that their hardworks being taken away... then definately i`ll stay on for another 6 years... as long i`m still breathing... :P
can`t we all see it? Stephen can do it IF he wants... sadly... that`s not the case... |
MajorDinero
99+ day(s) ago | yeap, typical. You say you want to help newer players, and you say that you want to make the game a better place but in the end you are only interested in your own affairs :P
If we are to make everyone happy with a solution that is practical (read: something that BW can actually do). I vote for keeping RT the way it is, but making DM into a new server that is similar to RT, but will have a fixed reset date every once in a while. BW could make a npc UW once every month or something. I don`t know what you had in mind for DM BW, but that is my suggestion and I think that it would be a tonne of fun :) |
DrKsTGuArDiAn
99+ day(s) ago | No its not fair at all val to lose all infra. But I do recommend a certain% like 10-15., that`s around 25 lvls or so at max infra that would slow up the rich empires and give them more time to researche and get back what they lost val. The more you have the more you will lose, the younger empires won`t be feeling this as hard as the well established get empires. |
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago | MajorDinero.. i blame this to Stephen`s vision when he started this game in the first place...
IF he wish for a game that will be restarted every 6 months or so... he should stated since day one every new player signs in to play SFGC...
i signed up for SFGC coz i can see that i can build a legacy of my empire as long as i want...
i`ll be honest... IF i knew that SFGC will be restarted every 6 months, 6 years ago... i don`t think i`ll play again after my first 6 months end up... or the first UW i`ve encountered....
infact, i still pissed with backoff`s UW coz i`ve lost my max ore at that time... coz it`s not an easy task to achieve that... just imagine whether i`ll still play around when i`ll lose all my infra`s levels and arties...
i can say a lot... but does it matter at the end? |
MajorDinero
99+ day(s) ago | uh the whole point of a reset is to encourage newer players to join in on the fun. |
