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Slavyzz
2010-03-15
  Out of DP bonus  

I wrote a big old thing about how producers (agri, cg, mineral, etc.) should receive out of dp bonuses just like tax or comm empires.

But it really all boils down to the fact that I want more money without having to work for it, cause I`m lazy.

So yeah that`s what I want, the word "bonus" next to my food production and a plus sign and a number representing bonus food I`m making because I`m not hiding in dp.

Say what you will.
Slavyzz
99+ day(s) ago
I was speaking of upkeep, they might be pricey to build but they are cheap to retain.
Squaks
99+ day(s) ago
well actually are ships are among the most expensive its just that the upkeep is low, our ships range from 150k each to 1.9mil each so that are costly to build
Slavyzz
99+ day(s) ago
@Uber- becasue im greedy and I wants more moenys.

@loof- Very good point, I can`t see any way around that which isn`t unnecessarily technical. Well played.

@Squaks- Your ships are cheap :P

@Tikimana- I like your idea of the bonus getting bigger as you stay out longer.
UberPansy
99+ day(s) ago
Comm is already a lower income type, why nerf it/be jealous?
KnightofNi
99+ day(s) ago
grantweep
17hour(s) ago it`s fair. If you get enslaved as producer (agri/cg/mineral) you pay no tribute.

Tbh, the races really worth playing (aside from miner, which is debatable) can`t be enslaved. Maru, collective, guard, viral, none can be enslaved so I think this is a moot point.
EvilLoof
99+ day(s) ago
A bonus on agri, minerals and goods wouldn`t be the same as a credit bonus, it would keep being the same no matter the size of the fleet. The bonus for credit income go down as you add fleet....Think it`s too complicated to tweak it so a bonus for other income styles would do the same, so the only way to balance it out would be removing the bonus i think.
Squaks
99+ day(s) ago
those other races already make more than me so no bonus for you...
Tikimana
99+ day(s) ago
I meant... "there`s really no reason to *NOT* go out of DP and then use all your turns at once"
Tikimana
99+ day(s) ago
Bonus values should increase according to how long the empire is out of DP. With turnbased, there`s really no reason to go out of DP and then use all your turns at once, instead of having some incentive to be patient.
Deathroe
99+ day(s) ago
I like the idea of increasing the existing `bonus` system. The one issue would be for empires above 10 million pr, their bonus would be unchanged. The increased bonus (based on economics) should stimulate players staying out of DP and staying below 10 mill. PR!! The trick is to determine how much increase in `Bonus` is the right/correct amount.

Idea: have several tests/events (24 to 48 hours) and have different `bonus` values. This should provide usefull information !!

GL
Slavyzz
99+ day(s) ago
Hm the slaver thing I did not consider, however I don`t see it as a very strong point. Only terrans and aminers are effected by enslavement, and I happen to be one of the other four races that can`t be enslaved so that doesn`t really make it fair huh? And perhaps enslaved empires should lose a percentage of any profit they make on the market to the empire that enslaved them.

And yes mineral miners already make plenty, I am really thinking of cg producers and agri empires (like myself).
HoneyBucket{HH}
99+ day(s) ago
But if you never get enslaved then it makes no difference... whereas the out of dp bonus effects you much more often. So to make all things fair maybe producers should also have to pay tribute on their production?
grantweep
99+ day(s) ago
it`s fair. If you get enslaved as producer (agri/cg/mineral) you pay no tribute.
HoneyBucket{HH}
99+ day(s) ago
I think miners make plenty enough as it is. Maybe give them like .5% bonus or something just so everyone gets something.
L337
99+ day(s) ago
Does that mean miners would generate bonus minerals as well? lol I`m guessing no.
HoneyBucket{HH}
99+ day(s) ago
Personally I think it is only fair.
L337
99+ day(s) ago
mmmk.

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