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SagacityUSRR
2010-02-16
  ARTIFACT BALANCING  

I have been killing time lately by malking artifacts and I`m reminded why i hate doing it they are completely out of balance
Too many of the same artifact are used in different formulas and it makes it incredibly difficult to make then some arti`s are rarely even used at all it would be nice if someone could balance it out a bit .

a few that are over used

yellow
pink
silver
opal
amber
minor gordo

couple that are under used

black
brown
plum
cuarto mapa

I`m sure there are others that could fit in either of these columns , but seriously why not balance them out?
SerpentofOld
99+ day(s) ago
I can almost never stay up for mixed/uncommon dig.. screw rare dig tbh. I would love to see the dig times changes, i would HATE to see a 12 hour interval system placed. That would mean twice the artifacts, or being inconvenienced twice a day for the same amount of artifacts as before, either one is unpleasant. I don`t see many people ever say they like the dig times, so changing them would be nice. I am trying, once again, to make it. I am so close but my eyes are so heavy. Such is the curse of GC addiction.
KnightofNi
99+ day(s) ago
If the dig times could be shifted that would be more than enough... Even a rotation of dig times would work very nicely :D
Deiloche
99+ day(s) ago
-Max commons likely won`t get increased as 255 is the max for a 1 byte integer, which is what is being used for storage. Changing that just for commons would be both irritating and while not too complicated, I doubt Stephen wants to do it.
-PistolPete: Thank you for summing up what I meant to say. I tend to get a little... long winded. :P
Squaks
99+ day(s) ago
also it would be nice if the max commons could be increased because they get maxxed out easily
SagacityUSRR
99+ day(s) ago
I just dug for almost two hours on the common dig time and i got a total of 20 pink orbs doesnt go far when they in so many things
SagacityUSRR
99+ day(s) ago
Okay forget Gordo absolutely the wrong one for me to mention but just a little balancing would make sense I mean if eveything takes yellow then everything takes opal or silver dinerio then there are a bunch of arti`s sitting around that don`t get used ..... Pointless ..... Kinda like expecting anything to be done about it
PistolPete
99+ day(s) ago
I agree with the point Deil points out. But at the same time there are rather useless artifacts, like black and brown orbs. You dont have to balance things out so that you use one of each for a gordo. You can make the receipts so that you need a lot of one arti to make a gordo, and a lot of another to make a historia.
EnderWiggin
99+ day(s) ago
lol the story of gc
SagacityUSRR
99+ day(s) ago
the arti`s i listed werent the end all be all but seriously at the very least evening out the commons would make total sense exchange a black orb for a a yellow and a brown for a pink and BAM a much more fluid system as for not digging well i dig all the time but hte way the dig times are i hafta stay up till 1 am to even get the common arti`s this is what i usually get ( matter of fact outta the last 90 turns i got 2 common arti`s and i have a U.spaz )

EXCAVATION DIG SITE
Nothing found !
You used up 9 turn(s) Credit +15,548,951 Food 0 Goods 0 Tribute 2,743,933

I don`t expect anything to happen cause I`ve been around long enough that it doesnt work like that around here .

Seriously tho a little bit of tweaking would go a long way to making this a better game
GradualIncline
99+ day(s) ago
yeah, I`ve never had a big problem with the lack of pinks and yellows, and never had any problem with not having enough ambers, opals, and silvers. You people just don`t dig enough. :P Everything comes up eventually. I just wish assimilated bases and minor gordos came up more :P I like the way the artifacts are now, those bases are unmakable for a reason, otherwise gordos would be a common artifact.

The dig times changes however would be absolutely lovely.
Deiloche
99+ day(s) ago
I don`t know that I agree with redoing the formulae so that all the commons are equally used. Perhaps changing it so that some of the "major" artifacts consume a lot more of one important common compared to another which use a lot of another... make it more so that it isn`t just about digging for one type but perhaps making it more efficient to make several different artifacts concurrently. Anyways, I`m very much against making the formulae "balanced" in the sense of averaging it all out. That`s pretty lame.

As for the dig times, I obviously agree (rare time is at 3:30 am for me now, 4:30 am once DST changes again) so pretty much at the worst possible time of the day for a student who usually needs to wake up between 7 and 8. Something will be done about this, I imagine, if we can get Stephen on board. Remember though when suggesting changes to think of the possible complexity of the changes. I have no idea how Stephen coded the times in. The question is, does he? I`m told that he doesn`t know how to change back the viral increased cost changes, as he`s no longer sure what he did. Anyways, all I`m trying to say is, don`t get your hopes up.

Another suggestion that may (or may not, I`ve put absolutely zero behindysis into components for other artifacts) help is making some of the other artifacts - the ones that are either useless or currently only useful as components for bigger artifacts - actually useful. Assuming that this was done on a scale from uncommons up, it would certainly impact the common effects.

Oh, yeah, one last thing. You`re NOT going to find minor gordo becoming a lesser requirement for the high level items. There is solid logic behind that.
Slavyzz
99+ day(s) ago
indeed, i know its been stated before but i completely agree.
SagacityUSRR
99+ day(s) ago
also maybe shifting the dig times around like splitting them in half and putting them every 12 hours , so people in other time zones can get the good arti`s
RipVanWingnut
99+ day(s) ago
not to mention the fact that a bunch of them have effects that don`t work...

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