KaiserReich
2009-12-15 |  | The impenetrable Chlor |  |
What is the trick to taking down the Chlor spammer, especially from the Terran perspective?
Any help from the council of elders is appreciated. |
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DarkRage
99+ day(s) ago | lol SPamers Im Telling |
raven
99+ day(s) ago | Har har he said ImpEnetrable harrr harrr |
PistolPete
99+ day(s) ago | A good spammer may indeed only have 1 ships as dummy, as this setup to my believe is most efficient against people who stack or semistack. |
Yoshi
99+ day(s) ago | A good spammer wont only have 1 ship as dummy... |
UberPansy
99+ day(s) ago | Infernal
16hour(s) ago "then why dont you try quoting? as if anybody could know which post you`re referring to"
ya geeze Napoleon! |
PistolPete
99+ day(s) ago | quote infernal "obviously, if you know how to choose the best ships to counter spam, you would also choose the best ships suited to flanking chlors. and those right ships are usually no retal.."
All this started because Deli stated that it was better to stack, and I said no you gotta spam it. Here are a few battle examples all hitting from 130% at aggressive.
The fleet that is being fought is this one:
Defender`s fleet
Name Units Casualties Remaining
M.Chlor Cruiser 2000 0 2000
A.Kryo Starbase 1 0 1
M.Lyth Dreadnought 1 0 1
A.Aragonite Dreadnought 1 0 1
F.Spear Cruiser 1 0 1
Large Strafez Runner 1 0 1
C.Gemini Frigate 1 0 1
Large Strafez Fodder 1 0 1
M.Alium Corvette 1 0 1
M.Hal Fighter 1 0 1
I first made a stacked fleet. I don`t think you can improve this fleet significantly.
Attacker`s fleet
Name Units Casualties Remaining
P.Zeus Cruiser 260 260 0
P.Thor Destroyer 279 279 0
Nirvana Dreadnought 25 1 24
Strafez Queen 501 0 501
Hercules Juggernaught 9 0 9
P.Apollo Corvette 6191 31 6160
Strafez King 459 0 459
T.Empereur Battleship 69 0 69
P.Odin Frigate 2018 0 2018
Tyr Dreadnought 31 0 31
PR losses
Attacker 929472 = 21.9%
Defender 1803503 = 52.7% DP
*** Victory! ***
Colonies: 2
Here is a few examples of spams shooting a chlors:
Attacker`s fleet
Name Units Casualties Remaining
Nirvana Dreadnought 244 71 173
Hercules Juggernaught 1 0 1
T.Empereur Battleship 1 1 0
P.Zeus Cruiser 1 1 0
C.Taurus Destroyer 1 1 0
Large Strafez Runner 1 1 0
Large Strafez Fodder 1 1 0
Light Frigate Frigate 1 1 0
Small Strafez Fodder 1 0 1
Light fighter-drone Fighter 1 1 0
PR losses
Attacker 1290025 = 29%
Defender 3312075 = 96.7% DP
*** Victory! ***
Colonies: 3
************ Continued next post ****************** |
PistolPete
99+ day(s) ago | Attacker`s fleet
Name Units Casualties Remaining
T.Garuda Destroyer 4578 1463 3115
Hercules Juggernaught 1 0 1
T.Empereur Battleship 1 1 0
P.Zeus Cruiser 1 1 0
C.Taurus Destroyer 1 1 0
Large Strafez Runner 1 1 0
Large Strafez Fodder 1 1 0
Light Frigate Frigate 1 1 0
Small Strafez Fodder 1 0 1
Light fighter-drone Fighter 1 1 0
PR losses
Attacker 1408523 = 31.8%
Defender 2760627 = 80.6% DP
*** Victory! ***
Colonies: 3
Attacker`s fleet
Name Units Casualties Remaining
P.Odin Frigate 20907 4807 16100
Hercules Juggernaught 5 0 5
T.Empereur Battleship 5 3 2
P.Zeus Cruiser 5 0 5
C.Taurus Destroyer 5 0 5
Large Strafez Runner 1 0 1
Large Strafez Fodder 1 0 1
Light Frigate Frigate 1 0 1
Small Strafez Fodder 1 0 1
Light fighter-drone Fighter 1 1 0
PR losses
Attacker 983855 = 22%
Defender 3424727 = 100% DP
*** Victory! ***
Colonies: 3
And i don`t want to continue - but I am sure Zeus, Thors and maybe some others will outperform my stacked fleet. |
BloodRavens
99+ day(s) ago | ignore me i am just in bad mood cause of food prices on rt:S |
Infernal
99+ day(s) ago | sigh, lol. now i remember why i stopped bothering to give advice |
BloodRavens
99+ day(s) ago | lol infernal uber nab lol:) PP is right spam is the most effective vs spam... simple as nothing kills more chlors then nirvana spam |
Infernal
99+ day(s) ago | obviously, if you know how to choose the best ships to counter spam, you would also choose the best ships suited to flanking chlors. and those right ships are usually no retal.. |
PistolPete
99+ day(s) ago | A chlor spam to me is a spam with a lot of chlors and 9 dummies.
Building a stacked fleet, means you have to rely on the flankers in second round. If you got any stacks with retal ships, they will most likely die and you are in the risk zone of loosing, because those flankers dies.
Building a spam of the right ships, will win everytime, and you will kill more chlors, than if you had build a stacked fleet, because you are able to put a lot of dmg on the chlors in two rounds instead of only the last round. |
gecky
99+ day(s) ago | I guess we have to look at different ships depending on whether the Chlors are on offensive or defensive. |
InsaneSpammer
99+ day(s) ago | Serene attacked you. Attack has failed !
Name Units Casualties Remaining
Serene`s fleet
M.Chlor Cruiser 100 12 88
M.Calcite Cruiser 56 18 38
M.Chlorite Destroyer 60 53 7
M.Flysch Battleship 9 6 3
M.Epidote Destroyer 50 50 0
InsaneSpammer`s fleet
T.Empereur Battleship 7 7 0
Tyr Dreadnought 3 3 0
C.Taurus Destroyer 26 26 0
T.Garuda Destroyer 38 25 13
P.Odin Frigate 180 83 97
C.Cancer Cruiser 20 10 10
Nirvana Dreadnought 2 0 2
P.Thor Destroyer 22 0 22
P.Zeus Cruiser 20 0 20
T.Kalieum Cruiser 20 3 17 |
BloodRavens
99+ day(s) ago | LOL
BADLY WRONG ABOUT VIRAL!!! LOL V borrely is a chlor KILLER.. |
Infernal
99+ day(s) ago | then why dont you try quoting? as if anybody could know which post you`re referring to |
SHADOWREAPERS2
99+ day(s) ago | It`s this fun thing called stacking. Try it!
that is the post i was refering too infernal....if you can understand...lol....conquers post came a hour later.... |
Infernal
99+ day(s) ago | shadowreapers, if you can understand...deiloche is actually telling conquers that he cant put the viral`s "use any of the above" comment there as its not right? virals cant use g class...
and not to mention, galleons on chlors is pretty dumb as well, since galleon`s dmg out put and weapon type is seriously wrong |
SHADOWREAPERS2
99+ day(s) ago | Deiloche...could you be anymore sarcastic?....everyone else tring to help him and to no surprise from past post i see from you all you can do is insult him...is belittling your specialty?cause it sure seems that way...least you could have done is tell him some good ships to lead in the stacks...btw stacking is best way to take them out but ONLY if you use the right two ships in the top spots...and before you grill me for that its only my op ion.... |
ScarletTears
99+ day(s) ago | it all depends on the type of chlor spam really. and depends on your attack mode....chlor is a really powerful ship, very annoying to kill every single one of them |
