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VALJA
2008-12-01
  told ya already... lol...  

lmao... told you all in EvilAbadayos thread...

10:53 PM 01/12/08 xixixix uses artifact on you: Energy Shield deactivates Topaz Dinero from xixixix
10:49 PM 01/12/08 xixixix punishes your citizens for being a bad slave empire. Your population loyalty drops !
10:49 PM 01/12/08 xixixix punishes your citizens for being a bad slave empire. Your population loyalty drops !
10:49 PM 01/12/08 xixixix punishes your citizens for being a bad slave empire. Your population loyalty drops !



go ahead and try to drop 5000 loyalty and it will go up immediately without even paying any tribute... i got nothing to lose except hundreds of Major Dineros... still wish to enslave me?

guess what... as long i`m enslaved... the moment, after server refresh... better get ready for lotsa Major Dineros... so whichever Kho Shield you`re using better make sure you refresh it during after 8pm server time...

you want to play... let`s play... :)
DieOewerBoontjie
99+ day(s) ago
on gc that seems a common phrase
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
yeah... but at least i can still dream... lol...
DieOewerBoontjie
99+ day(s) ago
lol valja ur fighting a neverending battle it seems. . . if u cnt beat em. cheat if that doesnt work. it wasnt meant to be. if all else fails start enslaving
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
FOUNDERS... i agree... it could be added to new options for breaking free from enslavers... there are slaves who will pay to break free and there are slaves who are rebelious fighting all the way to their freedom... just drop the 10x PR rule coz there is MAX PR in SFGC...
FOUNDERS
99+ day(s) ago
VALJA instead of that how about the slave pay a % of there $ to break free or maybe 50 times there per turn income or something financial rather than climbing pr and wasting turns.
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
lol... what else i can say... first i have to fight the enslavers... now i`m fighting with supporters of enslavement... sigh...

tell you what... IF it`s going to ever happen... why don`t we make a win-win situation... drop the 10x rule... change to a fixed breaking point PR regardless of the master`s PR... you all can keep the enslavement, i (perhaps there are others too) can keep quiet... deal?

oh well... IF only Stephen is reading this........................... sigh...
Perseus
99+ day(s) ago
valja just dinero them to hell so that they cant stay up there xD
FOUNDERS
99+ day(s) ago
yeah valja i see your point there but then this is where your fedmates or just mates come into the picture and hopefully bring your enslaver down in pr.
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
FOUNDERS... in the beginning, enslavement is another acceptable option in SFGC... i even don`t care about it... there are options on how to break free... and i`ve done it b4...

BUT...

when an enslaver becomes such a big bully and can stay above 120 MILLION PR... you all tell me... is the 10x PR rule applicable anymore since the MAX limit of PR is at 1.2 Bill?

isn`t this a blatant abuse of enslavement already? this the point i`m trying to raise...
FOUNDERS
99+ day(s) ago
only question i got is
can a slave attack there enslaver if there enslaver sets off a UW?
Perseus
99+ day(s) ago
well thats why they are called "slaves" arent they. cause theyre not willing o_O
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
EnderWiggin... i truly hope you can at least try to see in a different view... an enslaver can get better income when the slaves are "WILLING" to give tribute...

i can give you a good example... me... IF i`m willing, i would never purposely enter -ve income per turn coz i`m willing to give my enslaver my tribute... but IF i`m not willing... well, you knew it already... :)
FOUNDERS
99+ day(s) ago
valja in uc only the very top players or players who had been in the game for years could afford enough honour points to buy there freedom from me so it would make no difference. plus in uc vassels dont give you nothing but a bigger pop and my pop was so big i didnt need them to use projects as i already could use them all.

slaves in GC is good and is here forever. i am probably biased as no 1 in rt ever tries to enslave me and the fact i make most my $ from minerals. most the time im in - income as lyth cost too much upkeep. plus if they have enslaved you you might get re-inforcements and your enslaver probably wont attack you again as they would have to free you first.
EnderWiggin
99+ day(s) ago
VALJA fighting is as big a part of the game as economy. A lot of enslavers don`t do it so much for the money as for the satisfaction... by making enslavement optional instead of being decided by battle you`d be killing off a major part of the game.
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
FOUNDERS... as for me, i would rather be a "willing" party than "being forced" to be one... as you a vet in UC, which one gives better result... a good persuasion OR a brute force?
FOUNDERS
99+ day(s) ago
UC is good untill you become too big for the game and have like 25mil planets make more $ than you can spend or give away and your faction is so good and full of op that it is almost impossible to loose planets. i have been vming there for like 6-9months and have destroyed 20mil of my planets. i have done everything there and it is now boring. having to build op everyday and make sure your in dp so your fed mates can come out is time consuming and boring.
FOUNDERS
99+ day(s) ago
you all talk about UC like you know it. im a UC vet
, look up founder and foundersboudica in rt and hourly. youll find me at the top of most rankings. i was top in most till i gave up as it has become to boring with the op situation.

there is a way to force vassilise there if you do a UW you can vassilise 500 players.
keltikelti
99+ day(s) ago
yea well infernal thats about the only way a terran is ever gonna pull of a UW is if the UW holder is a slave and he has his slave build ships to send as reinforcements ... also the slave master would need to have lots of slaves tributing so he could reward the slave that is attempting the UW
Infernal
99+ day(s) ago
oh wow, that sounds like a friggin brilliant idea!!
/sarcasm
CSSpro{oops}
99+ day(s) ago
infernal he`s suggesting that next time someone sets off a UW they have a master that provides reinforcements for them.

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