timple
2008-07-29 |  | Mine Field |  |
Hey! Since we have been faced with strong enemies, We could need a new stuff like mine field. |
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Ronin
99+ day(s) ago | Lol just saying it was very interesting :P, was kinda cool how you explained how some of these weapons would be used though |
CrazyShooter
99+ day(s) ago | *sets up a mine in the thread then walks away whistling |
UberPansy
99+ day(s) ago | just knod and smile Ronin... knod and smile :D |
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago | you saying we are `special` in a window licking way or a creative way? or are we creatvly licking windows? |
Ronin
99+ day(s) ago | Been in a chat with Exule and Aba at the same time, was quite the discussion going on between them. Didn`t understand any of it :P, but it looked pretty interesting, lol. |
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago | it`s just simple physics, anyone would know it if they did a little research ;)
But yeah it helps that i studied this sort of thing for some short stories I have writen (researchesd as best you can with hypothetical things and such hehe) |
UberPansy
99+ day(s) ago | *offers Ava a job as Chief Senior Commander SuperCaptain Science Officer...
No wait! Life behindyst and Guru of the Universe :D
good stuff mate! :o |
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago | anti-matter is a total mass to energy conversion mate. a tone of it can OBLITERATE the entire planet earth quite easy...imagine the result of 10 of them fired and detonated in a sphere surrounding the field? that many blast fronts would totally destroy anything inside the blast cordon due to all the the blasts being directed `inwards` towards the field.
This can be achieved by sufficient delta V and inertia of the detonation. Needs 10 fighters or frigates armed with a launch tube to accomidate a several ton payload of warhead and engine (also Antimatter powered for sufficient detal V generated over short flight to target, also means more antimatter avaialbe to convert up.
As it is released not all of the antimatter will immediatly detonate however, it will form a spear tyle effect or a lance as it obliterates and consumes an equal amount of mass in the conversion process and subsiquent fusion of other lighter atoms outside of the initional blast due to head and pressure wave and blast front.
As it disipates the amount of radiation on all bands would make the surviving mines useless as they would then be unable to aquire targets through the electrical mush on all radio bands and frequencies due to the super high energy detonations.
Thus...minefield circumvented and either destroyed or incapacitated for long enough to move past or send the next wave of missiles in for the next pocket of mines in the field.
You cannot ignore simple physics when high energy environments are concerned....or relativity |
CrazyShooter
99+ day(s) ago | not really
several million degree heat ? to produce that over large amounts of space you gonna need large arsenals and special fleets which will render the method useless it will be easier to sit maru and gameadmin in a ruby and have them go in front
...mines are simple devices there very little electronics and ones that is there designed to withstand the blast of the mine itself so it can collect data afterward :p its very hard to find them and even more so detonate it except when u walk right into it |
EnderWiggin
99+ day(s) ago | ummm... dude,
aba just kicked your *BLEEP* |
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago | graphite is very fragile and isnt all that heat resistant when hit with several million degree heat. the shell of the mine may survive but the things it is protected would be destroyed either via evaporation or explosive expansion rupturing the mine outer shell or just denaturing the chemicals/reactants inside to be unstable/oxidizing/neutralizing via either heat or radiation extremes.
Mines defeated :P
Epic fail! :P |
CrazyShooter
99+ day(s) ago | they are wrapped in graphite and tuned to detonate only upon certain frequency which produce only by large interstellar fleets
thats it aba we getting mines :D ! you`ve done it ! |
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago | Crazy, you saying detonating a cluster of nuclear/antimatter missiles/bombs in amongst a miner field will not trigger them?
Also if mine technology has gotten better, so will of detection ;) |
mallow
99+ day(s) ago | if you make that ships less than 5 range can`t attack then its very useful vs collectives (no more brig spams)
still think the idea isn`t really workable and would be against it in practice |
Mycaeron
99+ day(s) ago | I can see this idea working, but in this way:
Hypothetical....
Scorpion Starbase
blahblahblahblah...etc...damage this, that, etc... HP...etc...
Special Abilties
No Defense:
Ships attacked by this ship cannot return fire.
Mine field:
Ships with <3 range cannot attack this ship
Why? Because a cloud of nuke mines surrounds the starbase. Fighters/Corvettes can`t get in close without running the risk of setting off some nuke mine. Dessies/Cruisers fire from far away. |
CrazyShooter
99+ day(s) ago | EvilAbadayos thats assuming mine technology did not develop,and infact it did this are clocked mines and since they are stable they are impossible to detect =P
...i dont really want mines this just a hobby of gc players to think of something weird and then assume it will be done/implemented or whatever =P |
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago | are you telling me that races that have developed intersteller flight cannot LOOK OUT THEIR WINDOWS and see big bombs just sitting in space? Or cannot scan the area for their mass signature?
Come on that borders on the idoitic in the extreme.
I am sure all ships in the game have a point defence system to eliminate local threats like rogue asteroids etc, they could be turned on the mine. those with missiles (i assume they are nuclear or plasma based) would be able to pepper the area suspected of having mines and detonate them that way.
This idea will never get done anyways because there is no need to give out a neutral class `starbase` to act as mearly a speed bump.
Also for the record, the below stats makes guard pretty much immune to them anyways....just a case in poiint and instant killing ships is a silly idea also |
mallow
99+ day(s) ago | this is the problem with mentioning the words `GC` and `update` very close to each other and in a serious, positive manner
everyone has these great ideas that will benefit the game.... such a shame not all of them make any sense |
Amaranth
99+ day(s) ago | God this is a horrible idea. |
battlestar12
99+ day(s) ago | how about just like i said make the hull instead of a number of how tough it is say depends on the number of mines so they cant get destroyed and maybe every race can get a super expensive ships to disarm mines and each one can only disarm say a couple hundred mines say since L class on guard sucks they could be immune to it or add another thing to the reserch list like say add mine sweeper and it makes it so your scouts can disarm mines |
