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VALJA
2008-06-11
  Again... those enslaver/s...  

nowadays... i don`t feel like to bother much about this issue... infact, at first few PMs, i consider it purely fun until it`s being informed to me that this time i`m being enslaved coz someone else asked this particular person to enslave me and to them it`s fun to see me climbing up to break free...

here`s the fact... i don`t mind climbing to break free nowadays coz after 50 scorpions, i`ll enter -ve income... and i don`t mind to wait 2 days to hit above 500 mill PR the last time i`ve been enslaved by xixixix...

but what pissed me off this time, instead of doing the dirty job him/herself, another player has to do it...

just for the record, i don`t like enslavement in SFGC and IF i`m going to put in public the PMs and stacks of the enslavers, i consider it fair enough... you do things that i don`t like, i`m going to do things that you don`t like...

"like i said..ill see you the next time you out, hell i didnt even want to...but i was asked to do so just to see if you would climb...we thought it was funny, then the artis at the end was hilarious"

i wonder who`s the master now... i`m sorry monkeyballs86... i never like enslaver/s... IF anyone wish to enslave me and sincerely need the tribute, they can approach me nicely... but that doesn`t mean i`m giving away my stacks... somehow my stacks are predictable... anyway, it`s once in a blue moon... i`m not going to allow anyone easily to enslave who PM me nicely after this.. :P

normally i don`t like to retal with arties... but heck...maybe it`s time for me to use it rather keeping it at max...

again... to whoever asked monkeyballs86 to enslave me earlier, do your own dirty work rather than ask others...
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
yeahhh... i`ve done it... been there, done that...

incase of anyone interested, pls go to this url or check inside archive section... :)

http://gc.gamestotal.com/hef.cfm?f=hef_detail&hi=6313&ch=1

thank you all... ;)
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
yeahhhh... the notorious 1 planet enslaver, SagacityUSRR... :)
PoisonousCandyCane
99+ day(s) ago
there he is.. saga him self...
SagacityUSRR
99+ day(s) ago
MmmmmmMmmmmmmmmm enslavement now theres a word that hasn`t crossed my lips in a long long time
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
Deiloche... it`s done... i`m being offered either i`m going to go pure agri OR most of the empires prefer the food is higher... :)
Deiloche
99+ day(s) ago
I would seriously enjoy seeing you outclimb me when I only had to be 10x or better your PR. I am very confident when I say that you couldn`t do it if it were just us two, nobody else a factor. And you certainly wouldn`t find any help from anybody else. Not that I ever have any intention of enslaving you.

If you have such a huge problem with slavers like that, offer a paid to whomever hits the person who has you enslaved and lowers them enough to help you. Simple solution.
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
lol... the only civilized slaving is when the slaves agreed willingly to be slaved and not being forced upon... and it`s not a feature in GC but in UC...

travvman... as for old player like me, i don`t mind being enslaved and try to climb to break free coz i accepted it as a feature of SFGC... but it can be abused when a master stays above 120 million PR then the 10x rule is no longer applicable...

as for new players, this enslavement thing might push them away frm SFGC.. why they want to play a game that force them to be a slave (read GC) when they can play another game that gives them option to decide to be slave or not (read UC)... some of us moan with lack of new players... the prob is known but the solution isn`t solve until now...

then again... you`re in the same fed with monkeyballs86.. i understand why you`re so defensive on enslavement... :)
travvman
99+ day(s) ago
I got the point... all im saying is if you play the game youve got to accept all game features. including extremely civilised slaving.
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
lmao@travvman... you`re still missing the point isn`t it... i don`t mind the enslaving when it`s fair for the slaves to break free even when the master is above 120 miliion PR... but once the master is over 120 million PR, how can the slave break free when the max limit PR prevent the slave to break free? get the point? or must i re-explain back? sigh...

:)
travvman
99+ day(s) ago
VALJA, harden up. if you dont like enslaving, dont play. and gc dosnt need to become more civilised. theres nothing uncivilised about virtual enslavement. get over it.
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
oh well... if the food price below 4... blame the enslavers... lol...
EvilLoof
99+ day(s) ago
correct
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
lol@Loof... yeahh... i should go pure agri and let the food below 4 eh... >:)
Loof
99+ day(s) ago
valja you selfsufficient terran uber newbie, go whine about something that matters, you got all your infra split on everything...use it. Go industry or something lmao. No seriously just go pure agri and dont give a dam bout being slaved...
StormofBladeZ
99+ day(s) ago
we dont need a limit. wt* we already have a limit.
ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
99+ day(s) ago
dude, we need a limit, cause the server crashes, there was a pr hoarder who went really high pr, crashed the server, no cash limit lol, The pr would be all over the place, you would see uw`s going from 500 billion pr, and not able to destroy them cause they too strong.
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
Deiloche... erase the PR limit, erase the max credit limit, your doubt would be erased too even it will take days or even weeks... :)
Deiloche
99+ day(s) ago
No PR limit or not, if I decided to enslave you, you`d be my slave until somebody else enslaved you. Perhaps you can climb over 1.2 bill PR, but I somehow doubt that you`d be going over 5 billion PR. :)

However, I understand your point. It is a shame.
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago
Stephen wont do a bloody thing...why? cos he doesn`t know how :P
VALJA
99+ day(s) ago
OpusDei... i agreed as the game feature/s... but how to define the game feature when the master is above 120 million PR and it`s no longer an option for the slave/s to break free since there is a max PR limit...

as for me... i don`t mind climbing up to break free... but where`s my freedom when my master is above 120 million PR and even i hit the max PR limit, i`m still a slave... and it`s illogical to have higher PR than the master but you still can`t attack them back since you`re still a slave...

maybe i don`t mind at all about enslavement IF the slave can attack the master with higher PR... heck... maybe it will start attacking others just to break free... lol...

i hope from all the posts, you all can try to see the part/s that i`m trying to point out about enslavement... not just about stacks and tribute, winning or losing... but the fairness in such option...

perhaps when Stephen started this game, he never anticipate for players to hang around above 100 mill PR... once a master is above 150 million PR, a slave is no longer have the access to the 10x rule...

anyway... i have a suggestion... IF you all insisted to have enslavement, please revise the 10x rule... maybe a slave once hit above 1 billion PR... he`s automatically free regardless the master`s PR even IF the master is at the max limit PR of 1.2 billion... i can accept this solution...

anyway... i understand only Stephen can do it but at least i`ve voiced it out... :)

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