ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
2007-10-28 |  | VIRAL |  |
okay newb help with stratagies for viral
tax they exel but when prices go up they have to stop taxing well its
TAX - reserach pure housing and build ONLY housing on planets and make money and buy food keep buying food though cause it might run out people tend to stock pile when cheap buy the food with all you money
COMMERCIAL- just reserach commercial and build commercial on planet and you dont need to buy food its stable income of course
AGRICULTURE AS IN FOOD- RESERACH AGRICULTURE AND BUILD IT ON PLANETS as viral only the colonies you make with tainteds like you get to select what planets u want to cluster- well you will make and sell food only and raw materals because agriculture produces raw materials also rt no one buys raw matefrials
Thats all for style of income
ships you want to reverse engineer
well if you dont know how to stack or dont have time to which you start spamming u might want
maurders - D.ANGEL PYTH AND PIKE OR HAMMERHEAD
terrans - NIRVANNA TYR AND HERCULES oinsted of nirvanna you might want thor
a.miner - CLOR FLYSCH AND LYTH instead of clor u spam u might want agnorite
Now stacking -
The basic stacking idea is this
8-9 range on the first 4 ships if ten ships(1/3 of stack )
1/3 6-7 rnage ships 7 first
1/3 5 range or below or u can make it 6 range some people do that advise use jugernaugts battleships or dreadnaughts near the end of the stack
EX
THOR
Pike
queen
brolly
f.sword
tyr
d.hammerhead
flysch
pyth
Hecules
note that the most range ships first least range last
now if you have more 8-9 range ships or all attack agressive
if you have capitals 7 range dreaghtnaughts and juggernaugts attack on care full
if you have a balanced stack half and half attack normal
note that the ship u want thats were you want you brolly to be
note that brolly spam is nice but just cheap and now if you want to spam spam capitals and attack carefull or agressie your choice |
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ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
99+ day(s) ago | well ya i didntgo in detail much but i am trying to get people to read stuff to make this part of the disscussin more active |
AGM94
99+ day(s) ago | The ships that you reverse-engineer mostly depend on your playing style, do you want to play at high or low pr? do you like to attack on aggressive or careful?
I would probably use the ships below to choose a shiplist for my needs
Terran
Thor, Garuda, Herc, Tyr, Nirv
Miner
Epidote, Chlorite, Chlor, Flysch, Lyth, Aragonite
Maru
Pike, Tiger, Bullhead, Pyth, Angel
If you are new to the game i would recommend spending some time as miner and maru before going viral so that you can experiment with their full ship list to find out what you like as you cannot change your choice of ship once it is reverse-engineered.
To reverse-engineer a ship you have to capture at least 5 from a battle before clicking your manage fleet link and clicking on the R icon to the left of the selected ship.
The figures in my posts should be accurate but it is possible that they are not completely correct so any corrections would be welcome |
AGM94
99+ day(s) ago | Commercial
Commercial is the most stable of all viral incomes but will also generally make less than a Tax or Agri empire with the same amount of land.
If you are going commercial you should research 7 levels in housing and the rest all in commercial and build enough housing so that you have just enough population to fill the rest of the colony with commercial.
Commercial is generally the choice of most virals as outside influences such as the market dont make any difference to the basic commercial income.
Agriculture
The main problem with being an Agri viral is that you can only use viral made clusters (tainted) to produce food. Any colonies captured from other races can only be turned into infected which cannot produce food.
If you are an agri viral i believe food needs to be above 5 for it to be more profitable than a commercial empire with the same land.
Research should be 7 housing and the rest in agri and if you have created a Viral C4 and filled it fully with agri you can destroy all the houses which will increase your food production slightly
The final issue with agri is that it is not an instant income, you have to wait until your food is bought from the market before you receive any cash which can be a problem with high income fleets if noone is buying food.
Mining or CGs
Being a mining or CG viral though possible are extremely bad ways of playing viral and is not recommended at all |
AGM94
99+ day(s) ago | Tax
To be a tax viral you will need to build just housing on your colonies and research only housing. Before building the housing on your colonies i recommend increasing the loyalty to 5k. The higher your loyalty the higher your income from tax i believe at 5k you make around 2x as much as at 50. The reason for doing this before building is that the more population you are increasing loyalty for the more expensive it is so it is cheapest as a new empire to do this with a low population.
As a tax empire you must make sure to always have some food available otherwise your loyalty will drop and your population will die lowering your income. If food is below 17 you will be making money in this way but once it is above it will be costing you so if possible is better to not use turns until it lowers slightly.
Consumer goods are not needed for your empire but will increase your income alot if you are able to buy them from the market so if possible you should.
Overall Tax viral can be the most profitable way to play as viral if the food price is low and there are some big producers who are active.
Disadvantages
The larger your population gets the larger your base pr as an example i am a guard with 11,414,055 pop which is a base pr of 1.2m. Because of this large base pr i cant really fight below 5m pr |
AGM94
99+ day(s) ago | Although i would choose ships very similar to what warmonger has chosen and would do it with the intention of hitting Agg as much as possible there are still some potential problems with the choices as there will always be.
Going high pr would take a huge amount of time and expense.
5 out of 12 ships (1 being bullhead that has 2 weapos)do missile damage which can be a problem if you are fighting someone with strafez as missile does no damage against strafez ships.
Anyone attacking you on careful has a fairly high chance of winning especially if they were a 2-3 stack spam with capitals
I would choose very similar ships to warmongers choice though especially at low-mid pr.
TPEs basic stack idea is ok and is a very common one but that is not the only way and the descriptions of the money making tactics are poorly ex-plained |
WarMonger07
99+ day(s) ago | is that a problem? |
ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
99+ day(s) ago | yes it will but u must attack on agresiive |
WarMonger07
99+ day(s) ago | SHIP NAME, RANGE, RACE
P.Zeus, 10, T
P.Thor, 11, T
T.Garuda, 9, T
M.Chlorite, 9, A
M.Epidote, 9, A
M.Chlor, 8, A
Tiger, 9, M
Pike, 9, M
D.Bullhead, 9, M
F.Sword, 8, N
F.Broadsword, 9, N
F.Borelly, 9, V
Strafez Queen, 8, N
using the 10 top ranged ships from this list would give you a fleet of an average range of 9.2, thats got some amazing range and a very nice spread of damage types, try stacking with that as a viral, much more effective at low to mid range PRs |
ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
99+ day(s) ago | i can play viral mara i played viral tons b4 learned from SD shattarddream he told me most of the stacking stratagies and many newbs ask me so i decided to make a guide on it |
Maraudian
99+ day(s) ago | why are you making guides etc when your still asking for help with the race and can just about play it when its so easy yourself o.o` |
ThEpAkIsTaNIeMpIrE
99+ day(s) ago | note that the ship u want thats were you want you brolly to be
note that brolly spam is nice but just cheap and now if you want to spam spam capitals and attack carefull or agressie your choice |
