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Blazed
2016-05-17
  Looking for some PC info  

http://www.amazon.com/Alienware-Desktop-Console-i7-4790K-processor/dp/B017A8FOBO/ref=sr_1_12?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1463428763&sr

Any info if this is worth the $$ or any ideas of something better around the same cost. I`ll go tops $2500 but still looking for something under $2k
Outsidthbox
99+ day(s) ago
I built this and it`s beautiful (around $2k can be made cheaper if parts bought online)
i7 6700k unlocked
gtx 970 (OC)
ddr4 2800 Mhz 16gb
250 & 500 gb SSD (small for OS big for games)
750 watt PSU
Gigabyte Z170 SLI motherboard
case with 4 fans & glass on side
120mm heat sync for CPU
Jester
99+ day(s) ago
Sager.
AdmiralSarek
99+ day(s) ago
Yes they do, sometimes it is cheaper / better to get a good shop to build your PC, and tailor it to how you want (discount on all the parts). Then you can mod it over the years. You can also talk to the people there, and choose cases and peripherals after actual touching them with is important for aesthetics, and how you you feel with different sized mouses/keyboards.

This is what I have done, 5 years on and still going sting with different graphics, more memory and more cooling. Still ready to overclock as soon as it gets to slow.
Renegade
Game-Admin
99+ day(s) ago
People actually go to ... computer ` shops ` ? ???
AdmiralSarek
99+ day(s) ago
I don`t think blazed wants to build a PC, just buy a decent one.

Alienware are to expensive, your local computer shop is probably your best bet, you get support and a more custom build.
Maverick
99+ day(s) ago
Even with the high end GPU`s, some games are coded incorrectly to where they will overheat for no apparent reason. I run two 970 GTX`s and have overheated them while running games that should not even getting them to 55C. The problem is the code in the game that talks to GPU does something not-smart where it creates a looping error, but not a runtime error to crash the game/system. Running an EVGA or MSI Afterburner with a high end GPU is probably best as well as a 970 GTX can handle most games pretty well.

I havent bought many parts recently, but NewEgg and other PC part websites used to do part combos when you bought a say a GPU and a Motherboard.
Raistilin
99+ day(s) ago
Most GPUs released in the last 1-2 years will turn off the fans when the usage is minimal... and I would trust an ASUS anything (except motherboads as they`re okay) if my goal was to melt the product down into molten pile of goop that would then be used to burn my way to the core of the planet.
AdmiralSarek
99+ day(s) ago
blazed you example was a small form factor desktop, which you pay for in cost , less cooling ability and less expansion ability.

So get a normal sized desktop and put the suggestions we have had into it. Most computer shops will have what you want spec wise, and SSD storage drive. And with desktops you can build to your budget more than you can with laptops. Just remember to budget in a nice screen, mouse ect.

If noise is important to you get a liquid cooled CPU and an ASUS STRIX graphics card which makes noise when not playing games as it runrs the fans off. For example http://www.amazon.com/GeForce-Overclocked-128-bit-DisplayPort-Graphics/dp/B00VRSERUI/ref=sr_1_4?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1464053002&sr=1-4&keywords=Asus+STRIX
Raistilin
99+ day(s) ago
Blazed, you could custom build the desktop, thats always last me longer than buying a pre-packaged deal. If you`ve got 2k to throw at a desktop then just take the top of the line Intel CPU, top of the line Nvidia GPU, 32g minimum of some Corsair Ram, grab an Asus motherboard, 256gb SSD and 2tb HDD, and probably look at getting a really big heat sync/fan system. If you`ve never done water cooling before I suggest you don`t start without some help from a friend locally, so you could mess your system up very easily.
Blazed
99+ day(s) ago
And #$%^ Asus, I`m using an Asus now and I have to replace my charging port. After looking into it, Asus seems to be nortorious for crabpy charging ports that wear out quickly
Blazed
99+ day(s) ago
I`m looking for a good gaming desktop that`s not going to be obsolete in 3 years. What should I be looking for in hardware?
Maverick
99+ day(s) ago
I remember when having AOL dialup was the thing to have on a prodigy modem of 28.8kbs ....
Repulse
99+ day(s) ago
I remember when I built my first PC and thought 512mb was a lot of ram. :/
Raistilin
99+ day(s) ago
Yeah, looking back I realized I worded the storage section pretty badly.

128-256 gb SSD for OS and any programs you run daily, then have a secondary Harddrive that`s 1-2 TB for file storage or movies or what have you.
Maverick
99+ day(s) ago
That is a good point Raist, I would also suggest looking at Asus gaming laptops as well. The last one I had lasted 5 years before I sold it to a friends son. Primary storage wise as Raist said should be SSD, however, the cost between a 256 and 1 TB is still ridiculous compared to an HDD. In my opinion, it would be probably better to get a 256 GB SSD and a 1 TB secondary for best bang for your buck to prioritize on RAM/GPU etc.
Raistilin
99+ day(s) ago
The big question Blazed is, are you looking for a solution that allows you to be portable with ease, and still be able to play any game within the next 2-3 years?

If so you`ll end up paying out an arm and a leg for a portable mini-sun that will turn your legs / table / house / existance into a melting pile of goo. Seriously, laptops just get way too hot for that kind of thing, even with the cooling plates and what not. But if a laptop is something you`re wanting I`d say keep the essentials in mind. You`re going to want high-end GPU, decent CPU, primary storage should be SSD with a 1 or 2 tb HDD, RAM you should be looking in the minimum 16 gb to 32gb range.

Another thing with Laptops most people don`t pay attention do are the number of USB ports (for peripherals such as mice/headset) the type of video in/output like HDMI or DVI, and ultimately the type of screen (LCD, LED, OLED).

I bought a laptop from a place called OriginPC back in 2010 and it was decent till about 2012-13, which isn`t bad for a laptop. They`ve got good equipment just very pricey, and there`s a section for desktop also if you want those instead.

https://www.originpc.com/gaming/laptops/
Jester
99+ day(s) ago
Way overpriced IMO, as with most Alienware. A 17" Sager laptop for $450 more has higher CPU + GPU benchmarks. I tend to prefer, as Sarek said, SSD for your OS/etc, and a cheaper HD for the rest of the storage.
AdmiralSarek
99+ day(s) ago
you are paying money for the small size, and the lack of information on the cooling systems concerns me.

these seem like better value http://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D0GIKZW?psc=1

Depends on what games if any you want to play. If space crack is it then you are looking at the wrong type of system.

Also consider SSD for OS and programs, and some raid drives for storage (+ some sort of off site internet drive)
Inverted
99+ day(s) ago
I`m a computer. Stop all the downloadin`
Maverick
99+ day(s) ago
My 2 questions is when I read the link, it tells me Windows 8 and doesnt tell me what Nvidia graphics card you would get in there, but reading hte comments it looks like an 860GTX, which is a decent Video Card. My question is the 1 TB SSD is what makes this piece more expensive than it needs to be. That and it being alienware. But this is all my opinion.

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