Frostblue 2013-12-15 |  | A4M RT UW |  | American4Ministry`s fleet Small Strafez Fodder 12,683,921 0 12,683,921 Large Strafez Fodder 651,240 0 651,240 Chimaera Starbase 1,020 0 1,020 T.Ryu-jin Fighter 2,538,000 0 2,538,000 T.Empereur Battleship 3,411 0 3,411 Strafez King 22,500 0 22,500 Tyr Dreadnought 1,460 0 1,460 Nirvana Dreadnought 1,002 0 1,002 Hercules Juggernaught 388 0 388 Scorpion Starbase 342 0 342 |
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Yoshi 99+ day(s) ago | I do believe back in the days Tranquillity had one pretty much successful but he got some Real life issue and had to disband/end it. I think it was his brother or something. |
EphemeralEternity 99+ day(s) ago | technically all the UW wins are still there i do believe it`s just stephen allowed only so much space, and no way to tab over to see older UW`s there are quiet a few going back before the oldest listed one now.
as for the DP think i briefly talked about it in my basic guide to stacking but oddly enough i didn`t include the part about min. damage as for the manual itself stephen loves giving semi accurate info in the most vague way possible, if i could edit it i would.
we have never known what the minimum damage can be done that adds to the dp counter....that 8% was a stab in the dark. i know anything at or beyond 10% counts and i speculate that some lessor amounts may count. due to battles i`ve seen where players take a small amount of damage surely less than 10% and yet when wiped on the second hit the attacker only takes two colonies instead of 3.
It also may be true that the number the server chooses to count may vary depending on a few circumstances, one being Pr difference, as an example when an attacker has less than 1/20th fleet of their target and they attack and do 8% damage the system may choose to ignore that, while if the attacker only had 1/2 the fleet of the attacker it may record the 8%. Also the battle rules may change for UW bearer so that only hits dealing so much damage may count towards getting that empire dp, stephen isn`t often the best at trying to account for all circumstances.
but to summarizes I don`t know the minimum amount of damage that must be done in order for the system to count it towards gaining DP, i also don`t know if that amount changes for a UW bearer or based on the PR difference of the two empires fighting, i just know for certain that 10%+ does count and that 10% is the minimum required to get a win. If i ever find out the magic numbers to this formula i will let everyone know.
Edited by EphemeralEternity on 2013-12-17 |
EmmdeeRT 99+ day(s) ago | That was fun! I couldn`t buid up `cause TheWhiteKnight would zap me.
The critical hits were by LordDrewski, Deathroe and finally EnderWiggin to strip away his lower stacks to leave his fodder naked. You never want to see your fodder naked. |
TheWhiteKnight 99+ day(s) ago | Great event! Loved it had alot of fun me and EmmdeeRT had a war going on there for a while :) |
Zapdos 99+ day(s) ago | Well Done Everyone (: Another Interesting Event |
Sibiriangun 99+ day(s) ago | Congrats guys for killing this so fast! You made the right choice of tactics for a change :-)
And another thumbs up to EE and BW for putting in such effort to keep this game roling! |
EnderWiggin 99+ day(s) ago | Frostblue and LordDrewski put in solid hits earlier too! |
wingnut 99+ day(s) ago | Everyone owes EmmdeeRT, EnderWiggin, and Deathroe a big round of applause. You guys rescued the Universe! Congrats! |
OpvsDei 99+ day(s) ago | Its all EEs fault! Boo. I want comp. |
dreamer 99+ day(s) ago | http://web.archive.org/web/20060615102903/http://gc.gamestotal.com/i.cfm?p=info&file=win |
American4Ministry 99+ day(s) ago | Hey where can you see those? |
dreamer 99+ day(s) ago | wayback machine shows:
16/08/04 50CENT RT Terran 149 33,851,237
21/03/04 doraemon RT Terran 225 16,603,457
27/10/03 earth RT Terran 42 11,381
08/07/03 Infinite RT Terran 22 7,505,628 |
American4Ministry 99+ day(s) ago | just no terran uws in past 8 years? |
American4Ministry 99+ day(s) ago | oh there are some that aren`t on the list? |
Renegade Game-Admin 99+ day(s) ago | Sorry to inform you but RT has had plenty of Terran UW`s. The list just obviously doesn`t show everything. |
American4Ministry 99+ day(s) ago | Welp we will have to wait longer to see the first RT Terran UW........
Well thank you for addressing the issue so quickly. Sorry if I made it seem like there was something unfair going on, just had no idea that it doesn`t calculate hits below 8% We should post the actual rules of DP somewhere for everyone to be able to see!
Admins were great! they did in fact replace the ships without me even having to ask which is why I assumed EE did it but BW says he did it.
Fun UW while it lasted sorry abut the weird ending, had I known I would have built dummies instead of waiting for a DP that never came. |
American4Ministry 99+ day(s) ago | Why is this not explained like you said it? It just says once you`ve taken more than 40% damage you get dp or lose 3 cols.....
"Empires who takes too much damage falls under damage protection. Empires needs to lose a minimum 40% of their fleet`s power rating or up to 3 colonies before damage protection kicks in. Protection can also be removed if the protected empire builds offensive ships (starbase and scouts are not offensive ships) or tries to attack another empire." |
ArchAng3l 99+ day(s) ago | Thanks for the effort, EE. Hope you have a great night.. Another instances where our admin demonstrate their selfless contribution to this gc.. |
EphemeralEternity 99+ day(s) ago | Sorry AM, but the Battle system behaved as it was meant to. Now to drive back home. |
EphemeralEternity 99+ day(s) ago | No slavyzz, it`s only cumulative if enough damage is dealt for the server to consider it to matter i don`t know that exact number, no one does it`s some where around 8% maybe higher..... it takes at a minimum of 10% damage to win a colony....it takes a loss of 3 colonies to grant dp...and i do believe that for the effect to be cumulative either a percentage of damage must be meet by the looks of it that amount of damage is 10%+...but the battle system functioned entirely as it should, most of the battles that killed fodder AM lost less than 1% of his total fleet.....and we`ve all seen attacks where we`ve lost 1-2% of our total fleet then been wiped for 3 afterwards.
Again Staff given ships do not affect dp in any way.
There was no foul play this is the reality of how things work when you have pure fodder and your not dealing any damage to enemy stacks and they are doing such little damage at a time. it`s just usually by this point in UW someone is hitting for well over 10% each hit. and there were i`d say a fair few pages of people taking off around 1 mil pr at a time which add up over time but the system doesn`t bother to add to the DP counter since each hit by itself is so insignificant.
As for the Thing with Raist, yes a rule exist about and empire coming back from being frozen and hitting anyone...the down time for that being 12 hours....raist waited 8 hours before his hit...a hit in which he killed 95,000 small fodder and 19 chimera when AM was around 590 mil pr + which is hardly a game changer....raist stopped hitting and BW compensated AM mere minutes after the two attacks.
Further more, that rule WILL BE AMENDED as it only exist to ensure that people cannot build up to 100 mil pr or what have you and vm then ask to be frozen so that they can pop back up during a UW and hit someone right away... it allows a 12 hour grace period for that person to be properly dealt with by opposition, Meaning a sufficient amount of time on TB for a group of players to give that person negative turns if they so desire. That`s the reason why that rule exist, not to keep players who had no fleet from coming back to participate during an event.. which is what happened in this case raist was fleetless aside from a few scouts. Also technically this rule only applies to being frozen by staff. While he was frozen by staff a UW had occurred after that time and was in np due to Fortythree`s UW.
There exist no rule that prohibits a player who is in np due to a UW from logging in when ever and doing what ever they please because generally that player has lost 90% of their fleet and resources.
so to ensure this doesn`t happen again the future the rule will be amended but despite all this, the rule was enforced this time and compensation was given and Raist halted his attacks.
Edited by EphemeralEternity on 2013-12-16 |