Ragnarok
2013-04-29 |  | Is it time to buff virals? |  |
I know! It`s unthinkable!!
But I think it`s time to think about ways we can get folks to go viral again. With all the craze in nerfing them, I think admins went slightly too far and now they`re the red-headed step child of the 6 races.
This shows in the fact that very few people go viral anymore. In fact, on Normal server, we only have 1 viral left! They are an endangered species on that server!!
I know they have the cuteness of the common cold, but please consider throwing a few goodies in the viral`s direction!!
This coming from a player who currently plays miner on slow and normal server. |
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borok
99+ day(s) ago | No way....8 range is bad enough lol how about 8 range for hammer and 9 range for sting. |
EphemeralEternity
99+ day(s) ago | Lol BW being OP that`s why guards with 1/3rd or less of the land can keep up with him 24/7 and some can even out build him. but yeah.. as much as i would personally like Virals to have a comm boost since i am a comm viral, there`s little reason to buff comm for virals atm. As i said before as far as TB servers go you can get more bang for your buck by going guard and or playing as a miner.
Perhaps one day we`ll get access to all races econ mods and we`ll do a little reworking. but none of that is on the books atm. BW and i have talked about this issue before and we usually come to the same conclusion that virals are relatively balances as is and that any lack of interest in the viral race is due to trending popularity of other races.
Of course we`re all ears if everyone thinks we should restore Borrelly and Chiron back to 9 range and 100% capture ^^ |
DeamonRising
99+ day(s) ago | honestly everyone knows the only TRUE beneficiary of a com buff is our dear old head admin BW not saying anything bad here but those 1k planets all massive in land whit even a 5% boost would make him even more op then befor other then that i think its simply silly to try to buff nerff virals there econ sucks SOOO WHAT they have the most versityle shiplist in the game and are still explorable
only changes i say is increase the credit cap 1 trill is fine but a lot of taxers can bounce off that every day regardless of food prices climb to 100m sit there for a week and still have there credits reach max and im not talking fodder spam... just not lyth spam
-final comments deamon out- |
Deathroe
99+ day(s) ago | This is Important !!!!
Virals are not tough to play - but their Econ Sucks
What about reducing their ship list to Two per species (so, a total of six ships)
But really increasing their Comm Income ??????????? |
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago | Omeg, what you say would only be true if any of the income paths were decreased. If you increase CG income for virals and change nothing else (essentially a buff), then someone researched in commercial would not be affected (except with, perhaps, envy).
Of course if you go around messing with viral upkeeps, then that`s a separate issue. |
DraconianParadise
99+ day(s) ago | I think , in my humble opinion that to make all of this fair. Bearing in mind all points of view. We can all agree that I *cough I mean Tewwan should be given V.Borrelly and Pyths...
In return I offer all Virals the choice of T. Ryu Jin (with go faster stripes) or T.Maru Corvette with extended warranty
Now Guides... the people have spoken... lets balance his game once and for all ! |
Omegian
99+ day(s) ago | Problem I have with it just being racial modifiers, is that isn`t the only issue I would address for them, nor a whole racial overhaul is warranted I think, because lets face it, CGs are a bonus to most people and not always needed (well besides guards and tax empires). Agri you already have marauders, collectives, terrans and you are saying we need race that can compete with that? I think attacking the racials the virals have already would be more effective, but meh, what do I know these days. No offense to shooting your thought Rag, it is a good one, but that would hurt virals who are already or heavily researched in certain trees. (thinking about older players on slower servers) |
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago | As the OP, I think the other posters are mostly on point. Ship stats aren`t what need modification so much as the race modifiers themselves. If Virals had better or more versitile income options, they could be a lot better.
Perhaps a bit out of the box, but why not look into improving the agri and CG modifiers so they are more in line? You could offset this change with a small nerf to CG income in miners if things get out of hand with the CG market. |
Repulse
99+ day(s) ago | edit the racial modifiers leave everything else. |
UberPansy
99+ day(s) ago | Virals are as rubbish as Terrans nowadays, I think they deserve a boost. They are one of the more important "flavor" races with a proud(?) legacy of domination. It`s time to stop treating them like Germany after WW1 and accept that they kicked our a$$.
Access to D class was suggested, it`s a controversial but simple and effective way to give some teeth to their stacks.
The argument that `commercial income streams grant market immunity` is used to institutionalize disparate income, crippling the potential for strength in that sector. |
Raistilin
99+ day(s) ago | Marus and Guards should get lower upkeep, i second this. Good job gentlemen you are most correct.
No no, don`t mind me slipping guard in there too. |
borok
99+ day(s) ago | But seriously, it`s fine the way it is. If anything guard build rates should be brought up long before trying to nerf one race to nerf another... |
borok
99+ day(s) ago | I like the way dreamer thinks. |
dreamer
99+ day(s) ago | If your gonna mess with maru upkeep, you should lower it even more not drop it. Seriously tho
Hahahah |
borok
99+ day(s) ago | It`s fine for all marus. Unless you add a starbase and make explorable =D |
EphemeralEternity
99+ day(s) ago | no one is touching anything for a long while anyhow, Remember i said If something were to happen then that would possible be it, but we`re not even considering if`s |
EphemeralEternity
99+ day(s) ago | sure it`s fine for young maru, or those who actually play plunder. |
borok
99+ day(s) ago | Maru upkeep is fine the way it is. |
EphemeralEternity
99+ day(s) ago | if we touched maru it wouldn`t be the stats we touch it would be the upkeep and yes collective would probably get a similar treatment |
borok
99+ day(s) ago | Could you not nerf the maru ships that take 45 turns for 1.2mil... |
