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TheBlueKnight
2013-01-05
  The Phoenix (rebirth of gc/rt)  

Lack of targets and planets has had a negative impact of all parts of game play. An infusion of clusters on the server would increase activity and stabilize markets; however, the approach must be scientific.

Let examine the top 50 ranks. excluding the top ten empires who`s power levels are the exceptions rather than the rule we have the following data from ranks 10-50

Range approximately 600,000

Median 2,650,000

Mean (average) 4,000,000

Mode 4,000,000

Assuming that the numbers are in order to have a significant impact on the server there must be an event or function once every +4 million power.

My proposal if the staff and admin can come together to make it happen. A massive influx of x class 60k c3`s place on the borders of random empires daily begining at 5k power and going in increment of every 4 million thereafter for a total of 30 c3`s being fed to the server on a daily basis.

No flaming , constructive feedback would be usefull.
EphemeralEternity
99+ day(s) ago
Lol We know where all the activity on the server is Sib, it`s certainly not in SB at the moment. it`s hard for inactive people to hunt clusters and keep them.

maybe 43, though i think forcing people to waste btcs on killing a uw would be more fitting than spending them to get more econ. most of those with the arti stores are old and usually have a great econ already so it could only make the gap between older and newer players on tb wider.

but i`d be willing to give something a shot on TB is just they`re more fragile and i don`t want to go introducing more imbalance on those servers. something would defiantly have to be planned out and regulated per server.
fortythree
99+ day(s) ago
EE I like your idea, it seems to be reasonably balanced. As a counter to the btc stockpiles on turn based, if this encourages some of this stockpile to get used up then that in itself is a good thing isn`t it?
Sibiriangun
99+ day(s) ago
Sounds fun EE, though I dont think it will change my perspective of the game much. But these events are good for getting the server more active since the UW attempts are so scarce.

I dont follow your argument as to why most of the event clusters would end up in MK though... we have war from the two largest feds on RT who controls the server and clusters always travel upward in the food chain.
LordaeroN
99+ day(s) ago
Sounds like fun! Well thought EE, let`s do this!
TheBlueKnight
99+ day(s) ago
Sounds good EE, I look forward to it.
EphemeralEternity
99+ day(s) ago
well i don`t agree that miners getting rich will solve anything, miners are already rich and they stop posting minerals and buy any they see. and c3`s are useless to collectives so i doubt it will spawn any action for them that`s why i`d rather give out specific rewards after a month or so, the clusters will still exist on the game and as i said i`d be ok with releasing 20 clusters out that can later be exchanged after a 2 weeks to a month for something useful for the person who has it but it c3`s for everyone except agri virals and collective and they can get their races c.4 the clusters could be made x class so no one could simply plunder them....

but i doubt it would encourage activity, maybe for a while, but then it would lead to vming and there`d probably be 3-4 empires with most of the clusters and well 3 of those empires would probably be in the MK alliance so the chances of any one ever hunting them would be slim so they`d. but despite that this is what i`d be willing to do.


I will give out 20 0 land x c.5`s so they cannot be plundered by any race.

How I will do it is I will get a random number generator and pull 20 numbers between rank 11-what ever number NP is, why rank 11 to give the lowbies more of a chance, chances are those at higher prs will end up with a good bit of these clusters anyhow. Only one per person. The only people that will be excluded is myself those ranked 1-10 and anyone in vm. That person will be frozen until they log in and given 2 btcs for a quick fleet

After that lets say 3 week period I will convert all those c.5`s into either 60k c3s ( or 60k c.4`s for agri virals and collectives these clusters will be made 125 planets to make that person unexplorable.) each cluster will have 30k ore on it as well so that way less fortunate will have some ore to do things with. The planets can be made x class if enough of the people would like them to be, though if not you can still request to make yours an x class. i don`t see the harm in giving these clusters 2.5k loyalty either. it does make it pretty powerful for a guard but guard aren`t the best race at keeping clusters on rt and a 60k c3 isn`t much.

Anyone who vms in the 3 week time period will have their event cluster`s auto removed and those will be given back out to a random player who lacks an event cluster. If anyone does figure out how to plunder these clusters (there is a way) then I will throw the cluster back out into the population and maybe do something bad to you.

I will give a months notice before the event so if someone would like to attempt to go collective or marauder or another race they can have a decent chance at defending or stealing a cluster. So what do people think?

Also I suppose something could be done on a tb server on a smaller scale, but i`d be hesitant about doing it due to the proliferation of btc`s that a few people have and others lack so it would more than likely be those with the arti reserves getting the clusters in the end.

Edited by EphemeralEternity on 2013-01-06
Peon4President
99+ day(s) ago
Well, it would be best if there is a few NPC empires that the admins can stock full of random c2s and c3s with different lands and loyalties so that there is always the hope of getting a better one, make it an every day thing but not 30 a day....
{DrKsT}GuArDiAn
99+ day(s) ago
I like it and the argument is sound. I would be willing to test this out over a one week period to see how it goes.
TheBlueKnight
99+ day(s) ago
I was not talking about a short term event , rather an entire overall of the system. huge numbers of clusters given out on a daily basis, with no penalty.

Yes there will be allot of clusters ; however, you still need to protect them, thus an increase in action.

More clusters will also correlate to more resources thus ending market manipulation and inspiring Adams Smith invisible hand of supply and demand.

Lastly it will generate excitment in an already stagnant server and keep collectives and maruaders viable races.

Argument one those with much will get more.
Maximum amount of colonies has its own set parameters; therefore, there is a limit to ones personal largeness.

Argument 2 Miners will get rich
Contrary miners will have increased compittion thus both lowering and stabalizing the markets.

Argument 3 Logistics
Although i`m never have been a member of staff i`m sure splitting the work load among several staff members 30 60k c3`s can be added to the server with realative ease.

I`m so certain that this idea would work that i`m willing to give up my empire for it if its a failure. Doing something crazy will always beat the status Quo.
{DrKsT}GuArDiAn
99+ day(s) ago
Are we able to request being removed from that random list EE?
EphemeralEternity
99+ day(s) ago
well that`s what i was talking about, having 20 or so c.5`s to give out, we randomly via random number gen or something pick empires not in vm and above np and give them a c.5 and then after 2 weeks to a month give prizes according to the race. but the prize has to be a c.4 or c3 no u class or single planets..

the reason why a c5 because no one will be able to use a c5...even if we did c3`s with 1 or 0 land that`s alot of profit for a miner.

these types of events have been done in the past.
Deathroe
99+ day(s) ago
Great Thread!!

If the Admins can put together this type of event I am all for it. I would only suggest that a faster ratio between "event starting" and "prizes" be quick :) I have a really short attention span (ha ha ha)

Thanks
GalacticMercenaries
99+ day(s) ago
i like Apollo`s idea give everyone a c3 then everyone put into 24 hour dp anyone who vm`s looses the c3
LordaeroN
99+ day(s) ago
Fully support EE`s idea. It`s already been done just like he described and it proved to work quite well.
Infernal
99+ day(s) ago
If this can be done for rt, I would hope it could be done for other servers, albeit at a more sparse scale.
Peon4President
99+ day(s) ago
Not a bad idea. Would be cool to see prizes for most planets after the event
Apollo
99+ day(s) ago
i like how these threads always devolve into "see who can hold these useless clusters for a month and the winners get something"

i say screw that they most organized feds always win those.

how about:

at some random time and admin gives every player above 5k pr a 60k c3 and everyone is put into DP for 24 hours, after 24 hours everyone on the server comes out of DP with a 60k c3 on their borders (or some can pcc to cover it), those who choose to can just plunder theirs and take others to plunder.

this way even ppl who arent in a fed and dont have anyoneto coordinate are out of luck during a "hold this crabpy planet for a month" game
EphemeralEternity
99+ day(s) ago
nope because miner`s can`t unassimilate c5`s
Apollo
99+ day(s) ago
Do miners not get minerals from c5s
{DrKsT}GuArDiAn
99+ day(s) ago
Good idea EE. But I would like to have either larges or edens again like the last one we did when I started this new guard account or perhaps a loyalty reward.

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