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EphemeralEternity
2012-12-31
  Starbase Contest Winners  

Scorpion, with 42.3% of the votes your winner is Scorpion design number 2, Designed by keltikelti.

Scorpion #2
Damage
E: 2000
K: 2000
M:8000
C:0
Hull 35000
Scanner 5550
Shields
ES: +30%
KS: +20%
ECM: +55%
IH: +25%
Range 7
PR: 43681
BR 2
Upkeep:36,202
Mineral cost:
TM 300 RC 85 WC 85 Rutile 85 Comp 110

Kryo, with 60% of the votes, your winner is Kryo design number 1, Designed by Repulse.

Kryo #1
Damage
E: 7500
K: 15000
M:0
C:0
Hull 150000
Scanner 7500
Shields
ES: +10%
KS: +25%
ECM: +25%
H: -35%
Range 7
PR: 87781
No retal
No Def
Br 1
upkeep: 82,250
Mineral cost:
TM 300 RC 300 WC 270 Rutile 800 Comp 425


Here is a total tally of the votes

scorp

1) 7
2) 11
3) 8

kryo

1) 15
2) 3
3) 7

Congratulations to our two winners who will be receiving UW reward artifact packages for the server of their choice. If you like the designs you know who to thank, and if you don`t like the designs you know where to send your hate mail.

These designs will be implemented by the 8 am refresh here in a little while, they will remain that way until Feb 1st where we take data collected from players and other sources and decide if the designs need to be tweaked or not. have fun, enjoy and remember to record and remember your observations about the new starbases.

Edited by EphemeralEternity on 2012-12-31
keltikelti
99+ day(s) ago
bases have been picked already too bad kryo with missiles wasn`t chosen it was my choice
Peon4President
99+ day(s) ago
I agree, if we can get some of the guards to go col Maru or viral, we be in good shape on rt
Africa
99+ day(s) ago
If there werent so many guards around the Kryo would seem like a beast to me. Range 7 and no retal. Really difficult to kill in a uw setting.
If you want to make them hurt guards why not just a bit of the kinetic damage and put a bit in missile. Like 3k-5k or something.
Peon4President
99+ day(s) ago
Lakko can`t work on rt to many virals floating int mix with the guards..... Need hoko to nsure at least some damage....
PistolPete
99+ day(s) ago
I am worried that buffing a range 7 no retal base, and making it cheap would be a problem at tb servers. There are not many guards around. And i also think other races than guards need to be able to beat it when its spammed. I like the high upkeep because it prevents it from being spammed too high, and hence be the preferred uw ship at tb servers. I mean it would be pretty easy to build a major kryo spam and sent the one or two guards that could oppose into vm with historias.
Sibiriangun
99+ day(s) ago
I agree with you forty. To me the new kryo has too little firepower to be of any use, especially since it can be blocked completely by K class. Lakko is a great base due to its huge weaponry and how it complements hoko.
The only purpose I can see for it is to kill fodder, which it only does slightly better than hoko which is much cheaper.
fortythree
99+ day(s) ago
Had a bit of a hit with Kryo flanking. Given the increased upkeep they really didn`t perform as well as they should. Partially this is the cause of the unbalancing effects of the shield mods on guard ships. Partially this is the poor dam/pr ratio which would be fine with an uokeep more in keeping with the original but at the current upkeep I`d be wanting more to actually keep using this ship.
EphemeralEternity
99+ day(s) ago
i`m not generally fond of giving advice out to the "enemy" but you know lakko works better as an anti guard starbase than hoko? the only things it doesn`t do very well vs is really quartz agate tourm and ruby. lakko rapes guard ships on careful quartz l class and k class. so as long as your near the pr of the guard who would hit you in question or if your pure lakko and their top stack has less pr than your lakko stack like say they`re 2-3 ship spamming then you should win and do a good bit of damage to them.

and there`s not a whole lot of guards willing to build up giant agate, ruby or tourm spams all the time...and most guards aren`t going to hit you with 6-10 stack on aggressive... and if they do and you then you could alternate between lakko and hoko or build both and maybe let them rape themselves.

but at the very least any miner should go test the lakko vs guard ships on yedi`s sim...of course lakko`s usefulness of a spam will mostly likely increase as the higher up in pr of you and your opponents. below 10 mil pr lakko is much more suited to be a flanker in a balanced fleet.

Edited by EphemeralEternity on 2013-01-06
Peon4President
99+ day(s) ago
Yah the kryo is a waste for me, nothing but guardians no point in building it and I can`t afford it anyhow....only hoko from now on :( should have let us vote to keep the real ones
UberPansy
99+ day(s) ago
The Scorpion is too generalized to be effective in its current role.
Possible strengths include its build rate and strafez killing potential (not Kings though).
Apollo
99+ day(s) ago
ive seen the kryo getting wrecked at higher pr in my fed discussion but i didnt run the sims or check PRs, there are never any terrans out
keltikelti
99+ day(s) ago
any feed back on how the new bases are working? or does no one use them just like always.
UberPansy
99+ day(s) ago
Just make the new Scorpion able to attack haha, like a long range missile bombardment!
Would have to kill the BR, would be fun as heck to use though.
Squaks
99+ day(s) ago
hate mails will now be sent to keltikelti
keltikelti
99+ day(s) ago
definitely nice to not receive any hate mail! :D
UberPansy
99+ day(s) ago
I agree with Yoshi.
Also, these designs were voted on by the community, so if there is blame to be placed that`s where it should lie. Our celebrity ship designers deserve respect! :)
Yoshi
99+ day(s) ago
Imo that miner starbase is pretty good and is what Miner needed. Grats to Kelti and Repulse for their design.
Repulse
99+ day(s) ago
Wow this discussion can no longer hold your inflated ego.
{DrKsT}GuArDiAn
99+ day(s) ago
*yawnz* wake me up when you reach my base pr and we`ll continue that discussion.
Repulse
99+ day(s) ago
I got an idea.....

Let`s give the kryo and scorpion 10,000 energy, kinetic, missle, and chemical damage with 300k hull, range 8, retal and defense, pr of 50k 10 BR and upkeep of 25k.

Perfect


Unless you contributed to helping the redesign, shut it. They obviously need to be played with and tweaked. Where are your designs?


Maybe instead of tweaking these starbases, we have guardians nerf`d.

GFY

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