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TaureN
2012-07-20
  New Viral ship :)  

V.Agamenon
Class Juggernaught
Weapon 31450
Energy 2000
Kinetic 12000
Missile 0
Chemical 17450

Hull 63000
Range 4
Scanner 7500
Power rating 54900
Cost $1,543,511
Upkeep $76,891
1 turn produces 1

Energy +10%
Kinetic +25%
ECM - 65%
Chemical +33%

Ship Special abilities:

No Defence

No Retaliation

75% capture


Just a fun thought, virals overdue for capital :)
IAmTheMatrix
99+ day(s) ago
Virals can have 3 battleships lol
TaureN
99+ day(s) ago
I just think its unfair all the races have Unique Battleship, except virals and guards.... dont like it one bit:)

I want V.Oterma :L)
TranquilSuns
99+ day(s) ago
It`s not about hunting virals. It`s about a ship maintaining a level of fairness. And why should an entire race be limited in their arsenal because the user chooses not to pay? That`s silly talk.
Gargantian
99+ day(s) ago
"minor shouldnt be able to go on the hunt against virals they are a non paid race and supposed to be def in nature"

don`t know about u guys but i use an unpaid race n find this offensive .... miner can do wht they want!
~little terran empire~
{DrKsT}GuArDiAn
99+ day(s) ago
Oh and for the record, their is no single ship in gc thats playable, that cant be beat by stacking correctly within normal attack and defend parameters.

Fact.
{DrKsT}GuArDiAn
99+ day(s) ago
I firmly agree with my earlier post, minor shouldnt be able to go on the hunt against virals they are a non paid race and supposed to be def in nature. Minor can just spam to 200 mill and not spend a tenth of their income to do it. Virals now a days hide their v.class in their lower stacks because of the lack of range. I agree it forces viral to stack more but their on more equal terms with terran and minor and that just shouldnt be in my opinion.

I would like to see another star base added, but that v.class jugg should be a no go, way op and would seriously throw rt out of balance.
AsukaLangleySoryu
99+ day(s) ago
because virals don`t really need any more v class especially a capital one, ships with multiple damage types with at least 30% of that in chemical are notoriously hard to balance. and could you imagine what a ship like this would do on careful as a spam.....

everyone and their brother and their sisters cousin would be spamming that with pyth or something and there`d be little someone could do about it....plus it having capture. now on RT this wouldn`t be so horrible but on TB it would be way to much
WolfHaley
99+ day(s) ago
why not make it available to pacc virals?
AsukaLangleySoryu
99+ day(s) ago
there`s already a V.Class jugger on GC, it`s just OP`d because it was used in an event, but a balanced version was made and saved prior to it being made OP

Here

but i doubt either version will ever see any action aside from NPC`s

Edited by AsukaLangleySoryu on 2012-07-26
TranquilSuns
99+ day(s) ago
Ehhh... No, viral doesn`t need one, you`re right about that.

The rest I don`t really see eye to eye with. Terrans are so outdated, it makes me laugh. Miners actually have a decent shiplist to work with though.

Also, the whole 9 range borrelly thing, no way. The whole reason they did away with that the first time was because that thing murdered collective, marauder, and miners with nearly no contest. The best defense was a Tiger spam and that didn`t always cut it lol. Took forever just to get the 8 range nerf lol. Now those races can go on the offensive against Borrs, and that seems fair to me.
{DrKsT}GuArDiAn
99+ day(s) ago
I disagree with a v.class capitol. I would make the following changes to the viral race. Ive been thinking about posting about this just havnt had time to work up the numbers yet.

Increase borr range back to 9

Give v.class a second star base to complement the one they already have

This may require adjusting some a.minor ships mod wise to compensate and balance the race out. Terran can handle it just fine.
IAmTheMatrix
99+ day(s) ago
Tyr has missile not kinetic. disregard.
IAmTheMatrix
99+ day(s) ago
The way you have it set up now is nearly identical to the Tyr, which you can RE. Ofc having this ship may free a spot for another Terran ship like Zeus or something. But You may not have room in your shiplist for another ship. So, kill energy OR kinetic.

E - 1000
K - 0
M - 0
C - 4000

Could go either way. You could have heavy chem and whatever else, or heavy whatever else and light chem. Whatever you do, you have more damage potential with two weapons sharing the same weapon power than three. A Kinetic + Chemical would obliterate quite a few ships...
IAmTheMatrix
99+ day(s) ago
Get rid of triple damage...
TranquilSuns
99+ day(s) ago
Woops. Give it 2000 more scanner, decrease pr to 12,627, Build rate of 4, cost= 127,659, upkeep= 7576.
TranquilSuns
99+ day(s) ago
V.Agamenon
Class Cruiser
Weapon 6000
Energy 500
Kinetic 500
Missile 0
Chemical 5000

Hull 22000
Range 6
Scanner 500
Power rating 14427
Cost $145,857
Upkeep $8,656
1 turn produces 3

Energy -20%
Kinetic +60%
ECM - 30%
Chemical +25%

Mineral Required

Terran Metal 0
Red Crystal 100
White Crystal 100
Rutile 0
Composite 40
Strafez Organism 160

Ship Special abilities:

No Retaliation

75% capture
GalacticMercenaries
99+ day(s) ago
booooo virals dont need more ships unless you make them not be able to ree other race cap ships :)
PistolPete
99+ day(s) ago
I like the idea of giving Virals a high PR/turn ship.

The upkeep is too high for a viral ship. And i dont think it should be a triple damage ship. 2 types of damage is enough.

Lastly i think the dmg/PR should be lower and the hull/PR should be higher.
TranquilSuns
99+ day(s) ago
eww, that would get murdered lol
IAmTheMatrix
99+ day(s) ago
And did you make this up as a means to force me to repent of my Syn?

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