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Eireki
2012-04-09
  gordo  

can you gordo your homeworld if its your only colony?
WhatIsTheMatrix
99+ day(s) ago
lol you could gordo anything that comes along... hello X class Gas with 100k lands!
FISTFULLOFDOLLARS
99+ day(s) ago
I never knew you could gordo your homeworld!! I didn`t know there was more I could learn about this game a loooong time ago, but there we go!
EphemeralEternity
99+ day(s) ago
i don`t see it as being for those who are lazy, it`s just for those who don`t like giving planets away, if your a one planet wonder you don`t ever have to worry about giving borders to anyone hoarding, and you eliminate your self as a target for most collective maru or explorable empires unless they just feel like hitting you or they have more borders lined up.

Like you said it would take potentially 400+ days but what`s 400 days when you could be playing for 5-6 years + not to mention if your a person who buys gordos you could get the land faster or just get more land....and spaz`s are necessary for digging, a decent ocean will do the trick and their not hard to find.

but yes it is a bit rash to spend so many minors to make a major especially consider you could just gordo w/e planet/cluster you made or found. doing something like this isn`t for the impatient that`s for sure. though i the way i feel cost is a temporary thing where as the effects (and glory) in this case could last for ever (server willing)

but in the long term it would be pretty epic and take some devotion for a player to Major gordo their home world.

Edited by EphemeralEternity on 2012-04-09
IuztheEvil
99+ day(s) ago
It comes down to a style-of-play kind of thing, I just can`t see it being worth it. Yes, every major is untouchable gain, but if you are growing one planet (presumably with a spaz underneath) how hard is it to log in every three days and border up? Or VM...

If it`s something that seems too difficult, then I guess the extra time/effort is worth it...but it`s almost 3x the price. I wouldn`t do it, but that doesn`t mean it`s not worthwhile for some...
AshyLarry
99+ day(s) ago
Thank you for taking the time for such an insightful post, luz. It does take a lot of time to create major gordos, and it`s very unreasonable to have to plunder your spaz to use them.

I feel as though tax miners should be to only ones who even consider this crazy approach, and even then, you should not be going out of your way to make major gordos; it should just happen naturally as you collect more and more artifacts. When we get close to max commons, we fuse uncommons. when we get close to max uncommons, we fuse rares, etc, etc.

then say the tax miner goes inactive on accident because rl or whatever. They come back with only homeworld, and then they can use major gordos on it.

Otherwise, minor gordos are a much better bet, as has been said so many times in this thread.

I think terran is the only other race with a homeworld, and for commercial, it`s the same if you use a minor/major gordo on a u.large, cluster, or your homeworld (major only). and for agri terran, you better not think about using a gordo on anything other than a fert.

My personal feelings are that gordos should only be used on ferts, although there are exceptions.
IuztheEvil
99+ day(s) ago
(cut from post below..)

You can, at most, house 255 major gordo`s and enough artis to fuse 255 more, so, every 510 majors produced, you will need to plunder your spaz, use the gordos, then find another spaz...not always easy. I have spent a few days exploring and not found a single spaz, not to mention one with 2 land....they are not super rare, but it is another thing that could add some time.

TL;DR: Some of the calcs may be off, because I tried to consider the low side of things, if I made any errors, fixing them would only inflate the 415 day figure.
IuztheEvil
99+ day(s) ago
I want to start by agreeing with you, it would be awesome to have a lot of land with no risk of losing it, but have you looked at how much more it costs?

It`s significant.

Regalo Unique
Can`t dig them, costs 1 minor gordo

Persiana Unique
Can`t dig them, costs 1 minor gente (potential gordo). Also, assuming you can dig enough STC to make them, you can avoid the cost of 2 minors (2 STC) per persiana. For argument`s sake, let`s just say a persiana costs one gordo.

Minor Gordo Unique
Self explanatory

Major Afortunado Unique
Can`t dig and costs 2 minor gents, which is 2 potential minor gordo

BTC Unique 0
Can`t dig them, and they are expensive to make...one regalo (+1 gordo cost), major producto (+1 minor gente), major barrera (+1 minor gente), and 2 STC, which we will just assume can be dug in sufficient quantities...

Total cost for a major gordo...at least 8 minor gordo. This is assuming you have STC in sufficient quantities (which you won`t).

First, the land difference. it is 60-100 for the major to 160-320 for the 8 minors.

Next, the time difference. Let`s say you average 21 combined gents/bases a night and 6 STC. You are making exactly 3 major gordo per night. If they average 80 land per, then it`s going to take you 1243.75 (taking into account the 500 land a HW starts with) to get to 100,000 land on your HW. That`s 415 days...of never missing a rare, uncommon, and common dig.

With 21 gents/bases, that`s 21 minor gordo per dig night, which, at an average of 30, makes 100k land (on say a 500 land balanced planet) take 158 days.

I would argue that, for most people, it wouldn`t make sense to use the major gordo...especially if you would ever like to change race...

Some things that could lengthen the journey...

You can, at most, house 255 major gordo`s and enough artis to fuse 255 more, so, every 510 majors produced, you will need to plunder your spaz, use the gordos, then find an
Eireki
99+ day(s) ago
ok thx, soon after i get dps on uc/rt anyone wanna trade major gordos on gc/rt for week or monthly paid for uc? if interested pm me rate plz thx
EphemeralEternity
99+ day(s) ago
i think gordoing up your HW is well worth the extra cost, imagine a tax miner with a 100k home world running around hitting people and not having to worry about borders....easy to hunt clusters from people since even if you get countered you`d give no borders.
IuztheEvil
99+ day(s) ago
Major`s cost a lot more...I doubt it`s worth the trouble when you could just gordo a single barren up to where you want and explore for borders all day long.
Eireki
99+ day(s) ago
alright then cool thx.
Renegade
Game-Admin
99+ day(s) ago
You can gordo your HW, but only Major Gordo`s. Minor Gordos will have no effect and be wasted.
NiHiLiM
99+ day(s) ago
i think it`s only possible with Major Gordo`s :)
Eireki
99+ day(s) ago
ok thx
DraconianParadise
99+ day(s) ago
No. You used to be able to, but you can`t anymore

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