Ishamael
2011-11-15 |  | Remember 6 stack fighting? |  |
I know it`s a longshot (I.E. requires Stephen >=/ ) but what was wrong with that system...?
I could foresee less spamming, and more involved tactics really. Would be nice!
Just think- having 6 vs 6, even a few buried different stacks to quickly change in the case of a botched attack or quickly changing up your defenses. Snap. *Ponders off. |
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Crack
99+ day(s) ago | Ten stack unchanged.. 3 wave..
Im wondering whether AC or DM is still doing a version of gc.. |
Treize
99+ day(s) ago | Yesssss |
AshyLarry
99+ day(s) ago | 3 TIMES BATTLE ROUNDS and 6 STACK FIGHTING!!! everyone`s fleet will be destroyed. |
420TiGeR
99+ day(s) ago | 12 stacks of DOOM . |
Deamon666
99+ day(s) ago | YA YA YA 3 rounds would probly destroy spamming cus of the etra hits but i would love to see numbers to prove or disprove it |
Crack
99+ day(s) ago | dont change anything except increased the wave to 3times..
Need stephen though.. |
Requiem
99+ day(s) ago | simple solution, adopt one of UC`s battle mechanisms.
Any stack in fleet greater than 40% of total fleet PR (i.e. first and/or second stack), will get a -20% penalty to weapons. On the flip side, any stack in fleet less than 9% of total fleet PR gets a 10% bonus to weapons and hull. |
Ishamael
99+ day(s) ago | More ships would be great. It`s even been suggested (countless) times. And what we recieved is- drumroll- sub par paid class! If every race were given say, 10-12 ships worth a polished turd, then the issue at hand would not be there. Or if perhaps No Retal were nerfed to a relatively moderate advantage (rather than having capabilities to destroy 4 stacks in a sweep).
There`s alot of answers. Facetiousness not being one of them, but at least you`re humoring me with one possible solution. So, I`ll do the honors of paraphrasing; "lets add more ships!" A fine idea. |
warmonger11
99+ day(s) ago | one sec, lemme hop up on this soapbox. as for the tone, it makes me mad when people try to solve problems by doing things that would make the problem worse. it shows either ignorance or nerfariousness.
a refresher, since i think some of us forgot how spams work. in general, a 2mil PR stack will kill a 1mil PR stack. (scale up till you are convinced, 20mil v 10mil?)
with 6 stack cap, 3 stacks of spam (herc nirv tyr, lyth lictor arag, etc) plus 3 decoys can completely wipe out the enemies 6 even stacks without a flanking attack ever having happened.
by increasing the cap to 10 stacks, the same tactic (3 stack spam) would result in 4 flanking stacks by the defender, which helps turn the tables against the spammers. to counter this, the attacker could expand to 5 stacks, which then is arguably not a spam at this point. thus the problem went away for the most part. a notable exception these days are 4 stack destroyer spams, which work fairly well against 10 stacks
to revert back to 6 stacks would make spamming much more common as has been said by others, and adding a 3rd wave would make it easier to spam. 3 stack spam would be able to meet 9 stacks, essentially the same problem as with 6 stack max and 2 wave system
if spamming is becoming a problem again, the way that has worked in the past is to increase the number of stacks. and if that is becoming a problem of its own due to a shortage of ships, either finish researching your ships, look harder, or (my favorite) lets add more ships! the only race with a "shortage" would be collective with 8 unique ships (plus a base), leaving room for 2 neutrals, and if you cant find 2 good neutrals to use, then i suggest fodders and call it a day |
grantweep
99+ day(s) ago | 6 stack fighting + 3 wave battle system?
So a spam on careful would rip through at least 3 stacks then. |
Ishamael
99+ day(s) ago | Ooh, that`s an interesting one... |
GradualIncline
99+ day(s) ago | Or a different number of waves for the different attack stances? |
Ishamael
99+ day(s) ago | Probably not, since it`s hard enough as it is to make a decent 10 stack...
If 6 stack fighting were reinstated, perhaps a three wave battle system could be instated. Or simply get rid of the careful option. |
warmonger11
99+ day(s) ago | if the goal is to cut down on spams, if anything we should be going in the other direction; give +2 stacks to defenders and spammers will have a harder time of it |
Ishamael
99+ day(s) ago | I didn`t even get banned for that, but realistically if everyone were ok with how the bug goes, I don`t see an issue having it again. *dead serious* |
LexTalionis
99+ day(s) ago | should bring back the thunderdogs while you`re at it |
Apollo
99+ day(s) ago | personally, i see nothing wrong with it. its your own fault if it happened to you, lets bring it back. |
Raistilin
99+ day(s) ago | It was sure fun, anaboliking feds. |
Omegian
99+ day(s) ago | Remember Anaboliking feds? but there was nothing wrong with that system *looks innocently* |
Ishamael
99+ day(s) ago | Good thing that worked. Because every race has enough useful no retal ships to make 10 stacks. PPPPPPPPPPPPFFFFFFfff.
I hope Stephen bans me again for having half a sense. |
