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ShatterdDreams
2011-10-13
  Changes Updates Contest  

Here is a place to discuss the BR changes if you wish and here are links to the other various threads you should check out

Final BR Changes

Upkeep Changes

Design Contest with nice Prizes ^^

Current BR Changes Charts (please try and post further comments about the BR changes on this thread though)

I hope that these changes Satiate the concerns that everyone had about the recent BR updates. There were some other concerns i know, such as fuzzy mentioned That fodders BR was doubled while most ships used to kill it with were only increased by 1.5 and this could have some major impact during UW`s due to the UW bearer being able to potentially replace fodder faster than he could lose them.

Things like the above we will continue to monitor and take action if we think it becomes a problem.

Also we may do a viral shiplist reset, we think these changes may warrant such action.

it`s also a possibility that we will review all paid ships in the future and ensure they are worth their paid status.

Edited by ShatterdDreams on 2011-10-14
Crack
99+ day(s) ago
If the updates testing are truly done.. has any1 yet reviewed the paid ships to ensure they are worth their paid status??
MajorDinero
99+ day(s) ago
Well, I`ve talked about getting an OP empire, but not neccesarily because of UW ship rewards :P
PistolPete
99+ day(s) ago
How i arrived at another conclusion.., because i thought that was what you meant. The reason i thought it, is because you have stated several times that you would have an OP empire once you had a lot of ship rewards from UWs - and i`ve always agreed. So thats kinda how i got to the conclusion this was what you meant. :P
MajorDinero
99+ day(s) ago
lol, thats not what I meant PP :P. I was talking about viral ship list reset. And comparing that to a UW ship rewards shiplist reset. O.o

How did you arrive to any other conclusion :P
PistolPete
99+ day(s) ago
Grant: Ya resetting UW rewards might be a good idea. I`ve always thought the ship deal out was OP. Maybe just remove the shiprewards completely afterwards to remove this for good.
grantweep
99+ day(s) ago
hm, I see what you mean rag.

Does lictor still beat angel turn for turn on offensive? It certainly used to...and with the BR changes/shd changes I would expect that it still does...Sure missle shd was reduced, but kin shd was increased. and overall dmg was increased as well.
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago
But that`s just the problem, if you have two people at base PR, one maru the other miner, and one spams 200 turns of angel, then I`m not really sure that Miner has a good answer for a scenario like that other than spam 210 turns of queens.

So yea, defending is one thing, but if you want to take down angel spam as miner, it`s quite another story esp if they got some pretty tough dummies to take down.
ShatterdDreams
99+ day(s) ago
yeah turn for turn aragonite can survive vs angel on all modes and it can win attacking on careful vs angel so long as you have 20% more pr in arago
Sibiriangun
99+ day(s) ago
I think rag means "attack angel on careful" where I believe arags will still lose. Sapphire on careful should beat angel, otherwise queens on aggro wipes angel on a turn for turn basis. Kings probably win too.
Requiem
99+ day(s) ago
arag eats angel up defensively on all stances o.o
MajorDinero
99+ day(s) ago
arag should be able to beat angel, defensively turn for turn on all stances. Hmm are you sure rag?
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago
New D Angel seems a tad overpowered to me, at least spam for spam, turn for turn. Lictor used to be a decent defensive counter, but with the missile shields reduced, it leaves argo as the next best thing. Unfortunately, Argo is still not a very good defensive ship against Angel, turn for turn. At least that`s my impression.
MajorDinero
99+ day(s) ago
silly founders, they changed the ship (lictor)
FOUNDERS
99+ day(s) ago
hmmm lictor cost less than pr now they cost more than pr why is this? has the percentage of attack gone up against pr?
Sibiriangun
99+ day(s) ago
Broadsword is fine as it is... its the only queen killer you get with a paid from the neutral ships, and its not supposed to be anything else. The low upkeep makes it useful in a stiack also.

I think chimera needs a bit of tweaking, at least compared to scorp however it turnes out. Right now chimera building at 70k a turn is a beast! Imo its a little OP as a base for terran but no more than than hoko/lakko so if it is the intention of the staff to finally provide terrans with a useful SB I totally accpet it.
Apollo
99+ day(s) ago
IMO bsword is fine as is, just add no retal no defence
grantweep
99+ day(s) ago
bsword is amazing, I love that ship...after these changes, it`s like my new favourite ship to build. Oh whoops, I better not give too much away >_<
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago
Agreed with apollo. Broadsword is little more than a strafez killer and not even that great at killing fodders.

Decrease scanner rating, increase firepower.
labratmaze2
99+ day(s) ago
I like all the changes , but until Anfits mods and GreenYedi`s site gets tuned up to match the changes its makes me have to think more than I want too ,lol.
Rimson
99+ day(s) ago
give the maru`s another good ship then (besides D-class)
besides pike(or tiger) and pyths i don`t really know or like any of the other ships to reverse

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