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OpusX
2011-08-28
  Chlor or Flysch Re-engi  

What`s your opinion?
Better take the Chlor or the Flysch as a Viral?
Crack
99+ day(s) ago
The question is supposedly flysch or arag..

Chlor works best as a top3 ship in a BALANCE stack due to it not having no retal..
ThEpAkIsTaNiEmPirE
99+ day(s) ago
How about both ? I mean what are you going to get Lyth Clorite and Flysh? You can get Thor instead of Chlorite. Chlor is a ship you need, even at high pr. Due to the fact that chlor is an epic ship XD.
AshyLarry
99+ day(s) ago
mineral miner works best with only u.ferts instead of clusters.
Deamon666
99+ day(s) ago
unless your a mineral miner then HOARD for gods sake hoard them planets big time
Ishamael
99+ day(s) ago
I think my record speaks for itself. My lack of activity has nothing to do with how much I own when I do play.
Apollo
99+ day(s) ago
Ish, you misspelled VM.
Ishamael
99+ day(s) ago
False. Hoarding is for the elite, exploring for the weak or curious. Ishamael has spoken.
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago
hoarding is good for those that want a `quick fix`, gordoes are for those going for the slow and steady approach and want to be able to explore for borders (assuming their race can explore)
Apollo
99+ day(s) ago
hoarding is overrated, just gordo something
Serperior
99+ day(s) ago
=) agrees with abadayos !

"It basically boils down to: You like low PR fighting or not hoarding? Get chlor. You like high PR fighting, hoarding and lots of land (150k+ land)? get flysch."
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago
depends if you want to hoard or not.

I found chlor, when spammed at around 200k-5 mill to be very effective. You however only usually win 1 or MAYBE 2 if your opponent sucks and 3 if they spam something chlor counters.

Now Flysch is a good ship over 10 mill PR assuming you can afford to build large amounts of them.

It really boils down to your economy and how `fat` you intend to become.

If your going tax (with low food prices right now and for the forseeable future not a bad choice) you will have a very robust and successful economy to be able to fight hgher PR`s, but have the base PR to make baby Jesus cry when you get a large amount of land.

Going Agri viral with food so `low` would make it harder and your much more market reliant with no per turn income so high upkeep ships can cripple you if your stock doesn`t sell when you need it to or you just can`t make enough food to make enough cash to fight at your desired level. It`s also generally the 2nd highest viral income style, HOWEVER you cannot use `normal` Clusters for agri and no Ferts, so that 25k C2 you capped from that terran? Useless to you. Where as comm and tax get to use it fully.

Commercial is the lowest of the 3 viable Viral income streams but also the most stable. You would need alot of land to make huge sums of money, which usually results in hoarding lots of planets and thus almost forcing you to fight at higher PR`s when you get over 150 or so due to the disadvantage your base PR puts you at (unless you hit from 129%, then it`s not quite so bad and chlor will help you alot in those situations...but it builds ...soooooo...slow.....)

I went kind of off topic and some of the info may not be 100% accurate as I have just rolled out of bed....well im in bed with the iphone but anyways...

TLDR:

It basically boils down to: You like low PR fighting or not hoarding? Get chlor. You like high PR fighting, hoarding and lots of land (150k+ land)? get flysch.
KingHippie
99+ day(s) ago
I came back and went viral, and quickly remembered what I used to re...

Then someone informed me that you can no longer RE Livid or Angel...

I has a sad now. =(
forsakenwolf
99+ day(s) ago
chlor doesn`t have the no retal , best used it top 3 stacks IMO
Apollo
99+ day(s) ago
when i was viral my chlor always died UNLESS i was spamming it
AshyLarry
99+ day(s) ago
chlor is epic, just ask any a.miner smart enough to spam it.
SHADOWREAPERS2
99+ day(s) ago
Would be interested in your guys opion for myself as i just started as Viral on ultra. I am a defensive/counter stacker. Highly active. What would you guys take to optimize my game play? oh and if it makes a difference i am a hybrid viral.
wingMut
99+ day(s) ago
http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~ddgarcia/gifs/spam.gif
grantweep
99+ day(s) ago
too bad virals can`t afford to spam more than a few turns of lyth
wingnut
99+ day(s) ago
LYTH!!!!
MajorDinero
99+ day(s) ago
epidote`s not a terrble ship for RT....

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