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Sadistic{}Interns
2011-06-18
  Collective NPC Fleet  

CollectiveEmpire`s fleet
H.Galleon Destroyer 53,664 3 53,661
Large Strafez Fodder 538,210 37 538,173
H.Barkentine Cruiser 33,990 0 33,990
R.Snow Battleship 16,215 0 16,215
Hercules Juggernaught 2,429 0 2,429
H.Brigantine Frigate 385,599 0 385,599
H.Corsair Fighter 1,002,557 0 1,002,557
R.Sloop Frigate 197,636 0 197,636
M.Flysch Battleship 15,251 0 15,251
R.Schooner Destroyer 51,629 0 51,629

To start with - Thanks to Crale for the Scouting =)
Sadistic{}Interns
99+ day(s) ago
Well done Sib! Nice wipe and that is the END of the Collective!!

BOOM!! /me does the Wipeout Dance..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gt0LBlH3dAc
Sibiriangun
99+ day(s) ago
CollectiveEmpire`s fleet
Pyth Battleship 3,278 3,278 0
M.Lyth Dreadnought 1 1 0
A.Aragonite Dreadnought 1 1 0

Colonies Captured
Name Type Land Size
E.3368 Barren 1,302
E.3367 Barren 1,125
E.3366 Similare C.3 16,523
Brotherhood
99+ day(s) ago
lmao...ya Pyth that was it lol...=)
ShadowKing
99+ day(s) ago
thats very unfortunate BadWolf
Sadistic{}Interns
99+ day(s) ago
That`s about right yes - he nailed my Pyth...
Sibiriangun
99+ day(s) ago
Nice clean up Sadi!

I figure he captured 70 mil pyth...
Sadistic{}Interns
99+ day(s) ago
Wish there were some nice Ferts in here - come on Admins! =(
Sadistic{}Interns
99+ day(s) ago
CollectiveEmpire`s fleet
H.Corsair Fighter 941,413 941,413 0
H.Brigantine Frigate 351,722 351,722 0
Large Strafez Fodder 228,914 228,914 0
Hercules Juggernaught 198 198 0
M.Lyth Dreadnought 1 0 1
A.Aragonite Dreadnought 4 3 1

Took 3 of those 1k land Barrens...
Brotherhood
99+ day(s) ago
thats a tough break SK...maybe whoever coded it thought if you got lucky or good enough to get 4 of them you deserved 3 boarders as a reward?...lol
BadWolf
Game-Admin
99+ day(s) ago
On another side note the other reason i no longer do them is because of the fact that if you mess up during doing them it`s very hard to impossible to fix that error Also messing up calculation due to human error and etc.

tl;dr only way c.5`s will be on players anymore will be the ones that already exist, from npcs, or if Stephen ever fixes the code (doubtful given i told him how and he decided to disable it)
ShadowKing
99+ day(s) ago
but its fine for drunken masters to have one? that seems very unfair and picking favorites

You might also notice that DM`s was the very last one i did and last one i will ever do.

Edited by BadWolf on 2011-06-22
Raistilin
99+ day(s) ago
BW deemed it unfair to give out c.5`s to players due to one fact, which is it gives +3 borders in the process. It`s not something he can stop from happening, it just happens.

So this would explain why the NPC can have a c.5, and players can`t at this moment. If you have more questions, feel free to pm them to me :)
CeeLoGuardian
99+ day(s) ago
i also wondered that the day after vendeen took 3 of your c4s :P
ShadowKing
99+ day(s) ago
and its a dang shame BTW
ShadowKing
99+ day(s) ago
i have but one question... how come a month or so ago when i had 4 c4s i pmed Badwolf to make them into a c5 and he said he couldnt do it? but with one already on the TB server and one now whats up with that?
Brotherhood
99+ day(s) ago
ive been on both sides of this..now i see what you are saying but with a c3 or above there is no lost forever. Makes you unexplorable and thats to the hunters advantage...ya he/she might have income advantage but thats temporary if you have drive to hunt said empire...already start with counter advantage to begin with..
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago
nope...another spark of brilliance for stephens coding.
grantweep
99+ day(s) ago
I thought c5s could be downgraded to C3s?
EvilAbadayos
99+ day(s) ago
the thing is, with the C5, is that it`s totally useless (apart from planet count for missions) to ANYONE but a collective.

Now look at it this way:

Would you want to loose a 250k+ land colony to an enemy player that can use it to it`s max potential? They would gain funds at an insane rate, and with that, be able to be more of a pain in the but than they already may be. Possibly also going to their head.

Now if you couldn`t plunder said colony (in this case) and it looked likely that an enemy collective would get it and use it against you, what would you do? Let them get it and able to use it to it`s full, being a total pain in the neck for a few week/months till they are forced to plunder it or loose it themselves (this case only maru and coll can plunder it).

OR would you kill off the population, let them get it then send them a mail to see the response?

I know what most people would do, even if it`s for the malicious joy of the emo rage it causes, or maybe the tactic reasons I said above. Scorched earth is a valid tactic in wars, this is just the GC version. They take hold of the land, but it`s totally useless for anything.
Raistilin
99+ day(s) ago
It`s a rather effective tactic. Denying enemies / opposition resources is exactly the same as depopping a cluster. Removing an enemy the ability to use or obtain items needed to continue to fight.

Whether you deem it dirty or good tactics, well that my good sir is personal preference.

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