ear614
2011-03-01 |  | Dreadnought For Collective |  |
Ok it has come to my attention that Collective don`t have acess to some sort of Dreadnought like every race so guys tell me do you think we should have one yes or no. Maybe instead of a not so great Starbase we could fix it into a Dreadnought or something. O.o |
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Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago | Yes, sloop BR could use a boost so that it would actually be a viable ship to use in a stack of a c4 collective. As it is, sloop is too risky to build lots of, and it too easily dies to lots of cap ships out there (herc not-withstanding of course). |
FISTFULLOFDOLLARS
99+ day(s) ago | On 2nd thought, increase schooner build rate so I can stop spamming 2 - 3 ships. Increae sloops build rate too while you`re at it. Oh oh and no retal on pinnace then we`ll call it even thanks |
FISTFULLOFDOLLARS
99+ day(s) ago | don`t touch my schooner range thanks |
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago | Well, if you give the schooner no retal, in additon to range 8, an additional nerf would have to be increasing the upkeep cost so as to decrease the incentive to use it in overly huge numbers such as a UW situation. |
ThEpAkIsTaNiEmPirE
99+ day(s) ago | Major whats your previous name ? |
elemental
99+ day(s) ago | i saw that suggestion somewhere, but i forgot to say the nerf: lower the range down to 8. about just as good as the barkentine, maybe a bit better with no retal (which EVERY OTHER race has), and with more than 1 type of weapon |
MajorDinero
99+ day(s) ago | @elemental, no
that could potentially make it the UW ship to end all UW ships :P |
elemental
99+ day(s) ago | what about giving schooner a no retal? |
FISTFULLOFDOLLARS
99+ day(s) ago | Col has no ships with kinetic flanking, so thats going to damper any full stack. brig eats herc up no prob and that is 100% capture. Either way, no need for a dread, but if these ships were given said abilities that woud make col race not suck |
WendysBaconator
99+ day(s) ago | Pinnance with no retal...that`s a scary ship. Sloop is too good for capture ability, it would get nerfed the moment I stole half a herc spam. |
FISTFULLOFDOLLARS
99+ day(s) ago | sloop should get 50% capture and pinnace should have no retal. |
ThEpAkIsTaNiEmPirE
99+ day(s) ago | Grant on the contrary i enjoyed stacking as viral. |
Colebourn
99+ day(s) ago | Only thing that should be changed about Collectives is the H.Galleon`s hull it should be decreased a little.. other than that the race is fine. |
Infernal
99+ day(s) ago | Oh and maybe I should point out that coll is suffering on rt due to the fact that turns regen so fast that they are at a disadvantage sure to instant high power counters that wipe out what they took. On turn based when things don`t move that fast, they actually do well. |
Infernal
99+ day(s) ago | @ragnarok : what bluff? I don`t recall ever saying anything about my fleet :p |
grantweep
99+ day(s) ago | Viral: spam borreley
Guards: spam K class
does that explain things? |
ThEpAkIsTaNiEmPirE
99+ day(s) ago | Grant not recently but I have played them in 2009 and once in 2008. I know how to work with each race :). |
grantweep
99+ day(s) ago | @ThEpAkIsTaNiEmPirE
have you played viral or guard lately? ;) |
ThEpAkIsTaNiEmPirE
99+ day(s) ago | @grantweep that is a good idea because destroyers only posses * usually* single weapons so one must stack to WIN. |
grantweep
99+ day(s) ago | @elemental
that`s a bad idea, it would mess things up too much, mb as a temporary event? but no way, as an actual permanent thing.
also, I read the idea and pointed out the fact that some guardian ships that are destroyers already build at >50k a turn...so what are we gonna do, increase those too? :P |
