OpvsDei
2011-01-01 |  | G.Sapphire |  |
Weapon 12,000
Energy Damage 2,000
Kinetic Damage 10,000
Missile Damage 0
Chemical Damage 0
Hull 20,000
Range 6
Scanner rating 1,000
Power rating 17,624
Unit(s) in fleet 1
Credits available 137,191,333,061
Cost per unit 291,752
Upkeep 16,300
1 turn produces 1.0
Turns available 21
Ship Specials
No defense
This ship can`t return fire if attacked.
No retaliation
Ships attacked by this ship cannot return fire.
Ship Attributes
Defense Modifier
Energy Shield - 30 %
Absorption Shield + 50 %
ECM + 40 %
Ionized Hull - 45 %
Hey...can someone please tell me what this ship is good for? Its the only ship i never use really, i don`t find it very useful or do not know how to use it maybe but having Arag Sword and Livid i don`t see why anyone should use it. It builds relatively slow, has a defense similar to other cap ships and is expensive on top of that.
Cheers |
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DraconianParadise
99+ day(s) ago | For parking in small spaces |
PistolPete
99+ day(s) ago | It`s the only miner ship that doesn`t struggle with galleon.
and its a nice ship for killing fodder. |
Ragnarok
99+ day(s) ago | Yes, BR I think is the biggest issue with Sapphire. Just increasing it from 1 per turn to 2 per turn would allow me to incorporate the ship into my stacks far more than I currently do in certain situations. It isn`t the best ship, but it`s useful when you need a ship with positive shields against kinetic and missile. |
OpvsDei
99+ day(s) ago | just jokin`. However i think many here mentioned the BR, maybe this could go through a vote or something or a few options like on the new lakko design and people can vote for the best proposal... |
OpvsDei
99+ day(s) ago | maybe it helps if i G.sapphire spam him at 200mil? :P |
ShatterdDreams
99+ day(s) ago | it was a very small amount of people who`ve created any ships for a long while, but again BW is on top the food chain for such things, which means you need to convince him. |
OpvsDei
99+ day(s) ago | SD...regarding the BR, does that also require Stes attention? `Cause if i remember well its a few players that created these latest ships...Leo, Sapp, King etc etc |
ShatterdDreams
99+ day(s) ago | well Atronite that`s been some thing that`s been kicked around for a long while, but honestly it requires stephen, and because he`s so ignorant of his own games he would botch it big time like he`s done in UC with several ideas...taken ideas and plans laid out in entirety and done w/e he wanted without regards to what staff or players wanted
though i`ve also felt as an added dimension to the game that when a ship out ranges another ship depending on by how much it out ranges it it should get more than one attack per phase before the other ship gets a turn. example... a 2 ranged ship vs an 8 range ship...the 8 range ship should get 4 attacks in before the 2 range ship gets an attack, each phase, and a 10 range vs a 4 range the 10 range should get two hits in before the 4 range gets one.
.. it would add more depth to the game, though of course everything would have to be rebalanced, lower ranged ships would need to have more hull or some other new bonus to counter multiple attacks.
though as previously stated it would take stephen, and would require a rewrite of the game...and i`m sure it wouldn`t go over to well. |
Yoshi
99+ day(s) ago | I would recommend of using it at 5 and or 6. but that`s me... |
Conquers
99+ day(s) ago | they work great for spamming....*(sarcasm)
xxxx attacked you. Attack has failed !
Name Units Casualties Remaining
Health`s fleet
M.Lyth Dreadnought 107 42 65
Strafez Queen 1 0 1
Large Strafez Runner 1 0 1
Large Strafez Fodder 1 0 1
Small Strafez Runner 1 0 1
Small Strafez Fodder 1 0 1
C.Aries Corvette 1 0 1
Light Corvette Corvette 1 0 1
M.Hal Fighter 1 0 1
Light fighter-drone Fighter 1 0 1
Conquers`s fleet
G.Sapphire Destroyer 150 53 97
Ranger Scout 3,299 1,397 1,902 |
FOUNDERS
99+ day(s) ago | yeah if the br of the sapphire was better i would consider using it as an alternative to the queens but with the current br i would rather build queens. |
Atronite
99+ day(s) ago | Kinetic and Missile ships I meant. |
Atronite
99+ day(s) ago | If you just Upp the build rate to 2 instead of just 1, I think it would make it a more competitive ship in uses with the flych and livid.
Personally, with a few improvements in BR and overall size, I think this ship could be more suited as an answer against heavily kinetic ships such as Galleons, Angel, Tyr and Herc spams. As is, esp on turn based, it would be far too turn intensive to use this ship against the above spams.
IMO, ships in the lower 5 stacks should receive a hansom attack bonus if they manage to flank ships, and an additional attack bonus on top of that bonus if those ships happen to be vanilla ships such as Sword or Garuda with no particular special bonuses. Of course such a fundamental change in the game requires STEPHEN, so it`s just a pipe dream like all else. =/
Anyways, Sapphire seems useful if you absolutely need a ship that has no retal to fill the bottom stacks, but until the build rate is improved there`s no way to really effectively use its positive bonuses against kinetic and missile against spammy type fleets (esp if they were of the herc or galleon persuasion). It will only be used in small amounts as a result. |
ShatterdDreams
99+ day(s) ago | well queens are more efficient in most cases but the thing is you`re not always going to make the pr you need with queens before you get hit on careful. just depends on what you want to do, but i think sapphire has it`s uses especially when it can win from under on some of the most spammed ships of course it depends on your personal building prefernces
yes of course it works nice as a flanker, but sadly most miners only think they have two ships in their arsenal, so usually stacking is out of the question, but luckily sapphire isn`t a bad spam ship either
of course i am all for upping the br on the Sapphire, but that decision is not solely mine to make.
Edited by ShatterdDreams on 2011-01-02 |
MajorDinero
99+ day(s) ago | @ SD: I am aware that saphire can beat lyth/angel on careful or withstand a careful atk from lyth/angel from around 130% :P
however, if you are attacking i`d be more turn efficient to simply use queens, lol. Hence, my remark that this ship is pretty much best used as a flanker.
would be interesting if the range was increased to 7...at this point, this ship is very reminiscent of a mini-ruby to me. |
OpvsDei
99+ day(s) ago | Thank you guys. I will try and use the ship in the next days or so considering what you said about it. I still think the BR could be improved making it a little more competitive however i leave that to the people who know more about ship building then I do... :) |
ShatterdDreams
99+ day(s) ago | use it on careful, it wasn`t meant to be a defensive ship, it`s a seek and destroy ship, you miners are so one track minded, oh no`s we can`t do anything except wait to be hit...
if you want to play defense vs lyth or angel might i suggest arago perhaps lictor in the correct numbers
just so you know, sapphire on careful will win vs lyth from 70% angel from 65% and tyr from 75%..so it`s is effective...of course not always the most practical but it works
Edited by ShatterdDreams on 2011-01-02 |
grantweep
99+ day(s) ago | sapphire kinda sucks vs lyth and angel :P
I see it as a flanker, nothing more. Range 6 is pretty laughable for a defensive ship, lol. |
ShatterdDreams
99+ day(s) ago | the ship was created to be a counter for angel tyr and lyth, which it does fairly well at, it`s also one of the rare miner ships to have positive kinetic and missile shields. honestly it was much more effective when virals had angels, but w/e it still works, though perhaps the br could be increased |
Freelancer
99+ day(s) ago | If the Hull was increased to 24k-28k it would be a decent defensive ship for a.miner... its slow building and costly to build.... Plus i wouldnt mind trading 1-2k Kinetic Damage for some more Energy Damage ( 1.5k would be fair ) |
