Petition RE: enslavement

U UllrOP

OP 24/10/2010 · 04:07 PM #1

Currently, I am the 5th most "powerful" empire in the normal server. I have expended hundreds of millions of credits and hundreds of turns on a massive base spam in an attempt to beat my enslavement by Bentussi, who is permanently on vacation mode and locked in at 2-3 mil pr. However, I still am not 10x powerful than him, and now I am out of credits and resources. I`m sure other people are stuck in a similar situation.

I feel like this means that it is time to reform the VM system or enslavement system. Change the 10x to 5x or 3x. Alter the VM rules so you cannot keep slave empires while in VM. Something, because my only options are essentially battle arranging to free myself from enslavement (a tactic that is questionable according to the rules) or restarting. I hope others feel the same as I do and will let the mods know in this thread.

I hope I don`t come off as a griping newbie here, I just find this terribly irritating.

D DrKsTGuArDiAn

29/10/2010 · 08:35 PM #48

@DarkMaraudian: Don`t bypass filter );D

Lol j/k hey old man what`s shakin

D DarkMaraudian

29/10/2010 · 06:35 PM #47

also this thread needs more flame >.>

chess your a newb!

* yawn

D DarkMaraudian

29/10/2010 · 06:34 PM #46

hmm they added new buttons in admin or something or are you gona freeze them if they VM with a slave , thats highly more exploitable than VM`ing with slaves...

unless ste fixed alot more than i believe... otherwise ide have done it myself

i havent read the whole thread nor do i care too ( GC love`s seeing slaves being unhappy ) , but im hoping your solution isnt just freezing the slave master placing him in 1.5k protection so they can break freee :-/

R Ragnarok

28/10/2010 · 08:10 PM #45

I agree with founders, although if you`re not making much money then you prolly have Agri terrans or a lot of CG and Mineral only Miners just leeching off your defense fleet. xD

M Marvinia

28/10/2010 · 05:22 AM #44

This is a great solution to a long standing annoyance. Nice work, folks.

F FOUNDERS

26/10/2010 · 07:13 PM #43

yes best of a bad situation and Req if you are a good master then you VM then not all your slaves will leave you.

R Ragnarok

26/10/2010 · 06:51 PM #42

I approve as well. If it wasn`t for a member of my fed posting a thread about this, I would have never had the brainstorm I did to suggest such a great but simple idea. :)

V VALJA

26/10/2010 · 04:27 AM #41

above all... i wish to thank Ullr... :)

something is better late than never... never lose hope and dreams do come true... (sometimes... lol)

thanks again Ullr... :D

W wingnut

26/10/2010 · 04:06 AM #40

nice move chess!

U UllrOP

26/10/2010 · 04:02 AM #39

Thanks chess. I think this is a a good solution for now. I know it will make the game better for me.

L Loof

26/10/2010 · 04:01 AM #38

i aprove

C chessRPGrulerKoA

26/10/2010 · 03:56 AM #37

I see that the overall response to this idea has been positive. In response to that, I will propose and enact the following procedure:
If *your* "slave master" VMs and you wish to get free without the sometimes insane expense of building to 10x, send a PM to chessRPGrulerKoA on RT with the following details:
1. Server
2. Your empire ID
3. Your enslaver`s empire ID
4. a note indicating that they are in VM, you want free, etc.

I will leave this thread open for more discussion for the time being, so Requiem or others who are in the business of enslaving can continue to present their case if they so desire. Keep it civil as always, I`m glad to see the discussion being so flame-free. Thank you to all of you guys for not letting flame wars start up, it makes my life so much easier.

U UllrOP

26/10/2010 · 03:55 AM #36

Or better yet, if a slaver empire goes into VM, simply change things so they can collect no tribute. This would take away the benefits of VM slaving. And the slavers won`t miss out on the money if, like Requirem says, it`s not that much anyway.

V VALJA

26/10/2010 · 02:20 AM #35

who knows BW... you might have your own reason/s... :)

BadWolf

26/10/2010 · 01:49 AM #34

@VALJA why wouldn`t i agree with one of my mods?

V VALJA

25/10/2010 · 09:10 PM #33

Ragnarok... don`t get me wrong... it can be done without Stephen... it`s all up to the admins to do it... IF players can be suspended at 1500 PR, the admins can do it without Stephen... and IF players want to be involved, they can just inform the admins which empires that go into VM and need to be put under 5k PR...

it`s time to stop thinking what Stephen can do and cannot do... IF admins can do it, we can bypass Stephen.. he doesn`t even bother to stay around and we`re paying for this game...

and IF you ever read this Stephen... sorry to be harshed... some of us can see the potential of this game and you`re just ignoring it...

so please do tell us... do the admins wish to see another empire like Ullr to restart just that they can`t break free frm VM enslavers OR the admins could do something about it...

R Ragnarok

25/10/2010 · 08:54 PM #32

Actually, scratch what I said about the admins. Your change requires a Stephen change.....enough said. :)

R Ragnarok

25/10/2010 · 08:52 PM #31

VALJA, your suggestion either requires a Stephen change or places far more work on admins than is necessary, even if it was practical.

Besides, few ever goes into VM for less than a week anyways unless it`s on RT.

R Requiem

25/10/2010 · 08:38 PM #30

yea, the slave empire will still get 15% less income. But in a sense noting is different for the slave empire other than its master cant get hit =x

which ok i admit is a big deal, haha.

and whoever mentioned about the loyal slaves.. that`s true too. most of my money makers are pretty happy with my reinforcements soooo.. lol. its only the troublemakers i like to enslave just to irk them P:

D DrKsTGuArDiAn

25/10/2010 · 08:35 PM #29

That`s a good point rec, but I think the same % of income is still withdrawn from the enslaved empire. I may be wrong in this matter.

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