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A.Miner Starbase Discussion

Started by BadWolf · 22/08/2010 · 05:52 AM · 394 replies · 5 reads
BadWolfOP
Ok people it`s time to vote on these idea`s if you would pls submit all your votes to the empire PollMeister on RT. this will decide which or all of these shall go through. just copy paste the format below with your choices


1) Lakko Version one, with BR of either 4 or 3.
Lakko version two
or Lakko the Redesigned Concept.

2) kyro upkeep reduction (y/n)

3) Livid upkeep reduction (y/n)

4) lyth upkeep reduction (y/n)

5 Chlor build rate reduction and Epidote build rate increase (y/n)


in a format similar to this pls
1) lakko version two
2)Yes
3)No
4)No
5)No

*note the changes to hoko will go through, and Chlor and epidote is a package deal, you can`t get either or.

also only one vote per person, not account, if we find you voted with multiple accounts all your votes will be discounted for wasting our time. Also for those of you that have taken the Lakko as part of a UW Reward, you will have the option to choose another ship.
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These are the current changes proposed by the staff, please discuss them in a constructive manner, feel free to also pm feed back directly to us.

Lakko version one

upkeep is increased from 2,352 to 7,195

Build rate, dropped from 5 to 4 or 3
which means instead of 55,350 pr a turn it`s now 44,280 or 33,210 pr a turn

or

M.Lakko redesign concept
Energy Damage 11,500
Missile Damage 24,000
Hull 55,000
Range 3
Scanner rating 623
Power rating 36,666
1 turn produces 1
Ship upkeep 32,999

Ship Specials
No retaliation
Ships attacked by this ship cannot return fire.

Energy Shield +40%
Absorption Shield -60%
ECM +40%
Ionized Hull -95%

Or..

M.Lakko Ver. 2
4,000 Total Damage
1,500 Energy Damage
1,500 Kinetic Damage
1,000 Missile Damage
Hull 15,000
Scanner 900
Range 8
Power Rating 11,061
1 turn produces 5
Ship upkeep 6,032

Ship Specials
No defense
This ship can`t return fire if attacked.

Energy Shield +30%
Absorption Shield +30% Was +15%
ECM -40% Was -30%
Ionized Hull +40%

Hoko

upkeep increased from 1,450 to 4,475

build rate dropped from 6 to 5
which means instead of 59,670 pr a turn it`s now 49,725 pr a turn

Kyro

upkeep reduced from 45,000 to 32,328

Lyth

upkeep reduced from 52,052 to 41,154

Livid (r)

upkeep reduced from 20,000 to 15,641

Chlor

build rate dropped from 10 to 8

Epidote

build rate increased from 10 to 12

Edited by ShatterdDreams on 2010-08-28

Edited by BadWolf on 2010-08-29

Edited by BadWolf on 2010-08-29

Edited by BadWolf on 2010-08-29

Edited by ShatterdDreams on 2010-08-29
M mordor
You know what would be really cool if guardian could defend against lythe and try spams.

I mean I spend 25k turns on Li then a another 25k for a ship like the li only higher PR rating.

How about give gaurdain a good star base or a ship that can handle lythe and tyr spams ?

maybee a gaurd ship that can take missle that does not deal it (guard vs guard battles suck)

Also give collective a ship that can handle the Li

Also

1: yes
2: yes
3: no
4:no
5: Yes !
K KnightofNi
If any well infromed viral actually passed up the lyth they are not-smart and should just go ahead and restart anyway... i`d love to be able to use the epi more but i think chlor is still going to be a slightly better ship even with the build rate reduction
U UberPansy
I don`t think anyone picks ships based on such minutia AM.
(imho)
S Seventeen
AM is oh so polite. I like him/her.
H HoneyBucket{HH}
I suppose so... I`ll put in a word with the big dog... see what can be done...as everyone knows they do anything I ask o.O
A AmericanMinistry
no doubt but obviously everyone would like to pick up that epi and drop the chlor now and maybe some people that couldnt afford lyth could take another look at it. i dont think its an outrageous request nor do i think it should be a top priority but i think it is a fair thing to do for sure...
H HoneyBucket{HH}
maybe it will happen, but not anytime soon... and I was joking about restarting, as that`s obviously a ridiculous suggestion for an old empire to restart because of a change in a few ships... but I don`t think that these changes are large enough to let all the virals pick new ships... the only loss a viral might have to deal with is a small build rate reduction to the Chlor, and with the versatile fleet of a viral I think they can manage just fine.....
A AmericanMinistry
im not demanding to change ships, just saying when theres some free time and if its possible to do, would make sense and be appreciated
@hb why should i have to restart? you are the one that proposed change not me ?
H HoneyBucket{HH}
AM it requires too much time\effort... and there is too little active staff right now. Thus, virals will just have to try and manage with the changes that occur, I sure hope they can.
A AmericanMinistry
well your possibly changing 3 reversable miner ships, seems like you would want to allow virals to choose new miner ships given that circumstance
H HoneyBucket{HH}
AM, you could always restart if it bothered you that much o.O
BadWolfOP
@AmericanMinistry

As for sometime in the future maybe.. in general after every single change to Miner Terran or Maru ships?

No...
A AmericanMinistry
if they change the chlor/epi or the lyth may we please as virals rechose our miner reversals?
M mordor
You know what would be really cool if a Gaurdain could defend against a tyr spammer who attack on aggressive
T Terminus
1) lakko version two
2)Yes
3)yes
4)yes
5)yes
S ShatterdDreams
read above....

also only one vote per person, not account, if we find you voted with multiple accounts all your votes will be discounted for wasting our time. Also for those of you that have taken the Lakko as part of a UW Reward, you will have the option to choose another ship.
P PistolPete
How does this work. Do each person get one vote, or can we vote from every server we are active on?
A AGM94
@ SamTheMan thanks for considering my post as not biased although i do play as a.miner on one server so bias may be present.

Mostly i chose the redesigned lakko due to loving the concept and think its stats are pretty fair that doesnt make it a right or wrong decision and i could be well out of touch but i think its a concept worth exploring even if it may take time to get right.
U UberPansy
Seifer- I said `land owning`
LoL i kid i kid
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