Tip for countering for newbs

I InfernalOP

OP 13/04/2010 · 08:12 PM #1

Lesson 1: do not have queens/runners unless you have a full 10 stack

example:

12/04/10
06:16 AM xxxxx
22,432,157 Infernal
2,461,729 Win

xxxxx counter-attacked you. Attack has failed !

Name Units Casualties Remaining
xxxxx`s fleet
G.Lictor Juggernaught 100 0 100
M.Lyth Dreadnought 160 10 150
Strafez Queen 3,700 3,700 0
Strafez King 1,040 139 901
G.Sapphire Destroyer 1 1 0
M.Flysch Battleship 1 1 0
A.Aragonite Dreadnought 1 1 0
M.Chlor Cruiser 2 2 0
M.Calcite Cruiser 1 1 0
F.Spear Cruiser 1 1 0
Infernal`s fleet
Large Strafez Fodder 3,393 3,393 0
T.Empereur Battleship 92 92 0
T.Fenrir Cruiser 317 317 0
Small Strafez Fodder 6,062 271 5,791
Strafez King 295 0 295
Nirvana Dreadnought 1 0 1
P.Zeus Cruiser 8 0 8
Tyr Dreadnought 1 0 1
P.Thor Destroyer 8 0 8
P.Odin Frigate 30 0 30

K KnightofNi

15/04/2010 · 09:45 AM #20

:)

I`m just shocked that I haven`t hit you more than that one time while I was spamming :O

I InfernalOP

15/04/2010 · 09:43 AM #19

i did say *unless you have a full 10 stack*
well, wasnt really full per se :P
but i thought you were spamming hahahaha

K KnightofNi

15/04/2010 · 09:42 AM #18

I wouldn`t post this normally but its so pertinent to this topic XD... I do believe this proves his point rather handily :D.

15/04/10
01:33 AM Infernal
17,112,268 KnightofNi
11,322,936 Win

Infernal counter-attacked you. Attack has failed !

Name Units Casualties Remaining
Infernal`s fleet
Small Strafez Fodder 36,571 0 36,571
P.Zeus Cruiser 1,146 0 1,146
T.Fenrir Cruiser 1,330 1,330 0
Strafez King 2,259 2,259 0
P.Thor Destroyer 648 648 0
Strafez Queen 1,116 1,116 0
Small Strafez Runner 8,695 8,695 0
Large Strafez Runner 2,298 2,298 0
Hercules Juggernaught 22 22 0
Nirvana Dreadnought 55 0 55
KnightofNi`s fleet
Large Strafez Fodder 6,480 0 6,480
H.Barkentine Cruiser 397 397 0
H.Galleon Destroyer 626 626 0
R.Schooner Destroyer 601 182 419
R.Sloop Frigate 2,259 1,451 808
R.Pinnace Corvette 6,949 6,949 0
Strafez King 1,236 561 675
R.Snow Battleship 132 0 132
H.Brigantine Frigate 2,954 0 2,954
H.Corsair Fighter 7,417 7,417 0

K KnightofNi

15/04/2010 · 09:25 AM #17

I love using Kings and fodders, but queens and runners are WAY too volatile for my liking :S

Oh and the T. Fenrir is the terran paid ship :).

I InfernalOP

14/04/2010 · 12:52 PM #16

well if you were countering a known spammer then it wouldnt be too surprising :P

H HoneyBucket{HH}

14/04/2010 · 12:27 PM #15

haha then I went and countered today with queens in a spam... without even thinking... just what i had left over after getting hit... got lucky and won though, without losing a queen =P

I InfernalOP

14/04/2010 · 11:23 AM #14

*nods*
HB got it right. dont use too much queens and runners when countering cos you`ll very likely get your butt owned, unless you have a full 10 stack and are guaranteed to wipe the other person

H HoneyBucket{HH}

14/04/2010 · 03:06 AM #13

Fodders are wonderfully useful... queens\kings can be great in stacks, but they are a gamble... if you play like me where you are an all or nothing kind of attacker, then they are the way to go. Also, if you have upwards near 10 balanced stacks, it`s not a big deal to lose your queens... but if you`re spamming with queens... well then you are a bigger gambler than I. Runners on the other hand... make me sick to my stomach.

G GradualIncline

14/04/2010 · 02:56 AM #12

Oh and no, that wasn`t me :P I`ve only fought UWs up to this point, and strafez is useful when you know what you`re going up against.

G GradualIncline

14/04/2010 · 02:55 AM #11

Hmmm *crumple crumple*

*crumples up his strafez stacks and throws them in the recycling bin*

:P

H HoneyBucket{HH}

14/04/2010 · 02:42 AM #10

sure no problem... i don`t think i`m explaining it the easiest way... but not sure how to...

V VALJA

14/04/2010 · 02:36 AM #9

lol... bits and pieces only to me... heck, it`s just me... i`m forever a n00b in stacking... :P

but thanks for the details HoneyBucket{HH}, i`m still learning day by day about what is stacking all about in this game... lol...

H HoneyBucket{HH}

14/04/2010 · 02:20 AM #8

Valja... the XXXXX character countered from way above, almost 10x... yet he lost... the reason why he lost is because he had more pr in queens then infernal had in his entire fleet...since he lost all his queens, the XXX guy would have had to totally wipe Infernal in order to win. If the XXX guy had 10 full stacks he probably would have wiped him and won. Or if he didn`t have those queens he would have won.

Does that make sense?

V VALJA

14/04/2010 · 02:16 AM #7

*still wonders what the heck is Infernal talking about... :/

H HoneyBucket{HH}

14/04/2010 · 02:03 AM #6

Good advice Infernal... many, many, including myself have made this mistake.

S Seventeen

14/04/2010 · 01:52 AM #5

What`s a Fenrir cruiser :O ?

S Seventeen

14/04/2010 · 01:38 AM #4

What`s a Fenrir cruiser :O ?

I Infernal

13/04/2010 · 09:13 PM #3

just telling people not to repeat his mistake :P
losing more pr in queens than my entire PR haha

K KaiserReich

13/04/2010 · 08:48 PM #2

Not to shabby for 10 to 1 odds.

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