VM in the Top 5

Okay here are my thoughts...
VMing at ALL is annoying. I have used VM only in the case of trying to play the dang game less because it was eating away at what little soul i have.
If someone goes to VM at high PR, fine, but nobody should be neutral of this! It IS freaking annoying! Strategy or not, we should all be hitting them with dineros left and right, DAILY. We all were maybe even a little excited to see kelti up there.. another UW to fight etc, but no he has a bunch of strafez and them VMed right after he was attacked. WEAK.

My favorite idea mentioned below was AA`s idea of NPCs. They are soo fun to fight (or defend >:D )

And oh look at BW who doesn`t do anything up there... I don`t know if you noticed, but he`s admin also... I don`t think there is much incentive to plunder 3 borders just to attack someone... He`s out of VM and available, ladies, go get some, you have the choice because he is NOT in VM! A choice we do not have on those other empires Vming up there..........

is there a reason you all keep bringing me up here? i don`t recall even saying anything yet =p

well MastaKilla i cant help noticing PP running cheap fleet recently plus he VMed. well see what happen after 5 days.... VM build???

Muad`Dib can see the Future. lol =P

btw careful when you spam fodder, i can see that too =)

I`m not sure how somebody being in VM in the top 5 affects anything in anyway...?
They can`t hurt anybody there...

HB i know your arent petty I just found the personal attacks to be beneath you and that is what i meant... its the dont hate the player hate the game kinda situation Stephen needs to fix these things in the game everybody knows he wont and then outta frustration we bicker between ourselves ... its ridiculous

Why not just make it so that when you VM and for the duration of VM your PR is N/A there fore your not ranked ?

How about if we just give those long term top 5 VM guys a PR of 1500? That would free the top 5 slots until they came out of VM. When the VM is over there could be some nasty surprises, but while they are VM, the top 5 would remain open to active players.

Well to solve this problem, i proposed that admin put 5npc at top pr.. hence no players can use the benefits of attack bonus in top 5. This would give players no reason to vm at high pr. And having 5empire at the top rank is already extremely hard to be take down. They could fedwar too. They don need the bonus. Also this give normal players a chance to climb and challenge the rank.. which i need will improve the game activeness.

And if it`s really harmful to vm at high pr, jus ban it.. but do adopt the above proposal first before making vm illegal.

I`m not trying to defend any empire... jus want to state my point as a player..

I wonder how does vm at top 5 hurting the game. It`s all personal choice.. A player can vm at high pr doing nothing is the same as a player sitting at high pr doing nothing. Sure, you cant hit the player down in vm, but he also cant hit you when in vm.

You talk about wasting days at high pr waiting for the player to be out of vm. Again it`s personal choice. Doesn`t staying at high pr waiting for days for ppl to climb up and crush them a waste of time too. I don`t think so. It`s part of the effort to hold the rank, both staying at high pr waiting for ppl to climb up and waiting for ppl to come out of vm.

To me, VM is sort of ambush tactic in battlefield. I agree it`s not that brave to fight one-to-one openly, but it`s a strategy widely used nevertheless. Army gathering information about enemy location and prepare to ambush them. Knowing an army going to pass this location and prepare to hit them.. All this strategy aims to either reduce casulties or to fight a more powerful enemys effectively.

Wanting to rule to top 5 is a strategy. It`s has a huge benefits. But you can`t always let the big brother win everytime, jus becos there are more active, more resources, more great players in a federation. It`s a balance to the game to allow small teams or individual a chance to do something. One of the strategy is VM at high pr.

Yes, you can call that stragetry wherever names you want to. To me i`ll jus call that smart, understand your situation, not using eggs hit the rock, adaptable to use another strategy.

Choosing not to vm too at high pr is your choice too. Players who have huge support and resources did not vm jus becos they don have to. They can jus hit anyone that climb near them.. But essentially they are also vming,waiting and do nothing most of the time. they are not using turns to research or to fight. This does not help the game too since they jus wait and wait..

@Atreides

Im just wondering why anyone in the Eden alliance on fast would VM build for a UW when we have held the ranks for more than a year now... Why not just build the fleet?

But then again... your logic has always been hard for me to understand :P

Haha HB!

Youre claiming that CC never VMs in the top 5 :P
Thats hilarious. In the short time ive played RT both BW and Islander have done it do avoid being taken down, so please dont say that CC dont do that. You can claim you dont like the tactic yourself, but dont pretend that some of your fedmates dont do it. It just make you look silly.

it seems pretty simple to me... the admin restricts vm like your work place probably does, you get 1-4 weeks off per year and thats it! The rest of the time game on! But since that makes sense I don`t expect to see it soon...

hh, I remember asking mara to freeze all top 5 vmers and he did it once, just ask the admin to do so, it stalls the game as u claim and is so annoying but dont come with that cc crabs cuz whilst u were gone it happened quite frequently to them too. Cheers

Some common sense in this game would be nice .... how about this if you are in VM and top 5 then any benefits of top 5 get passed on down to the next empire so the guy in 6th spot would get the battle bonus when you come back from VM you get your battle bonus back and the players can sort it out whether or not they wanna knock you down ..... Personally attacking players ( verbally) in VM isnt the way to go about expressing your views frankly it makes you look petty and small which I`m sure isnt your intention

vming should never be a strategy imho...it should be a last ditch effort.... maybe u should lose like 10%- 20 ur creds/minerals/fleet per entering vm... why? legit users will think OK if i have to i have to.. but for the ppl that use it as a strategy it limits the time they can use it .. i do find it funny a rabies member is using vm .... i guess i have been gone too long i remember when tdogs were vmers distemper a powerhouse and rabies a training clan for newbies like me .. and 50 cent and Karolinerna were molding us into lean mean killing machines.. it does sadden me to see kei in rabies vming the top ranks =(

still recall the time when someone VM build to hit two of us at over 100MPR (both are out of DP/VM for so long). they are more of your allies VM built than us grant, actually you guys started it. like i said we can play dirty too.

and i bet 1 of your ally gonna VM build for an UW.