Fuzzy`s UW, Normal

Well artifacts are a huge part of the problem here, obviously people are finding ways to get BTC`s and Historias, but even being a bit of a night owl 4:30 AM is no good for me.

Well would you, at very least, consider not doing UW"s every week or month... space them out a ways, or not do any at all for a while, and let people build up there cash so some of the younger empires can at least afford to fight you once in a while?

Some have said that they are bored and this is why they UW so often. Well I don`t think that it`s fair for your to UW all the time out of boredom, when this results in the rest of the server not only being bored but exhausted and discouraged.

Again, I am sorry that we can not be more entertaining and put up a better fight. But you taking your boredom out by annihilating the hope and resource of the entire server is just not right if you ask me.

the MK "family", BR, old vets club or whatever you want to call us could stop recruiting i guess. During the last year or so we`ve expanded only a little, but we are good at spotting talent and when that talent join us, they usually don`t leave.....

We haven`t kept trying to evolve to hurt the game, simply done it because we play to win. And doubt you will get me and dm for example to sit and refresh on each other to take clusters from one another while we chat about our last night on the town on skype....

As we`ve seen on slow we haven`t beat everyone to a pulp and are now completely uncontested, one player effectively stopped a few attempts on his own(granted a few of them was fake uw`s just to clear out BTC`s), and recently one took all our active players into -400 turns, but they just failed to plan the next step to actually use that.

Infernals UW i still think could have been stopped by just one of the big collectives using 4-5 BTC (Terminus, Tiki, Conquers etc....).

The same goes for normal, TCF no doubt have the same or even a bigger arti stash than us, yet when we chose to blow 30-40 btc on some uw`s they retaliate with using 1.

There is something wrong with the motivation of our opposition, don`t know what WE can do to change it, but sure i`m open to suggestions. If not recruiting some of the aggresive talent i see out there can help, im willing to do so for example. But no im not gonna hunt down what i`ve helped building up.

I don`t know the solution, but I think if we all brain storm we can come up with something reasonable to make the game better for everyone. The best thing I can think of is to split up the powerhouses of the server into different federations. Even the playing field so that there is a fight instead of a crucifixion. I am open for other ideas, something needs to be done if we are all going to enjoy playing this game together.

Splitting up the power and recruiting new players to the game ourselves to get the servers going again. Those are the most effective ideas I can think of at the moment.

So, can somebody really explain what they want to have happen? You want us to put our empires in vmode? you want us to stop uwing? you want us to stop playing the game competitively?

godwins law, rotfl.

lmao lord... the biggest VM winner since AoD.

Our spirit is disabled DM.

I will be the first person to give credit where credit is due. You guys have accomplished something very special on the turn based servers. You have proven that a few strong empires, with organization and determination can accomplish a great deal. I have a whole lot of respect for you guys for that, I really, really do.

But that respect is changing into a similar respect that I have for Hitler. What he did was amazing, it was impressive, no matter how you look at it. You have similarly gained power that seems unstoppable at times. This power is now being used to ruin the game instead of making it exciting and fun. When people stop fighting back and you keep on fighting as if there is something to fight for it just gets ridiculous and tiring.

I think everyone is just frustrated and rightfully so. We feel like jews in a concentration camp and the fun of the game is slowly dissipating. We have lost hope and ambition to make a difference. Lately I have seen people with very negative attitudes, that normally never speak out against anything, that normally never complain; yet they are speaking out now. This is a sign that something needs to change and probably will.

We need to keep in mind that the change can be negative or positive. You can keep "winning" all you want as the game dies and everyone gives up; you can make this game a miserable place for most of those whom play it. Or you can back off a little, maybe split up the power and in doing so bring life back into the game. Start seeing action in the ranks again. Give people hope and a reason to better their empires and continue playing a game that they dearly love.

It`s not our fault we`re playing in the paralympics though. It`s not like we have a choice. We win and stopping us is up to you..I doubt anyone here dislikes the good battle and challenge.

Well, if you consider yourself disabled Pans, sure.

i sure wish the filter would be changed for words like an.alogy and an.alytic... I mean even by itself it really isn`t that bad of a word, unless it is used with very poor taste.

lol behindogy
that should be *ana.logy*

You might think me insensitive, but just to make the classic behindogy, you guys winning is like an able bodied person winning the special olympics. Sure, you get a medal, but is that really all you care about? Pity to play with such shallow players.

Feanor, I have tried to explain my point, but all you do is whine whine whine. You don`t put ANY logical thought in your words. We do UWs, we try to win, to play the game the way it was MEANT to be played(ok, now tell me the goal of a game is not to win it and I will laugh at you). So, why exactly are we bad? Because we are more organized than you or because we have better empires than you? Play more, fight more, dig more, learn more and you will be able to do so one day. There was a group of FIVE people on fast who managed to take over the server from the edens and dotv almost SINGLE HANDEDLY. And I can assure you, those guys weren`t some uber fighters or having 400k land empires. They were just ordinary(but old) empires with a lot of infra, decent land and a lot of artis. If you guys think what grant, me and fuzzy did on normal is easy, try to replicate it. I assure you hard time doing so. It is not as easy as you`d expect. Why did I succeed? Well, 1200+ days old empire which stayed in dp for long enough surely had a lot of artis and some infra.

Feanor, be as persistent as blackadder, darck or atreides are on fast server(also being terrans), get 3 more people as persistent as you and try fighting us on ultra. You will see we are not invincible or something.

Well as for Ultra, TC is no longer much of a threat so I think it`s time to further split up the power. I understand that is a lot to ask and not really fair to ask of you. But at the same time it could be the best thing for the server and bring it back to life.

Honestly I am sorry that the server cannot offer you guys more of a fight. With the strength you guys have, it would be awesome to see a war that could threaten you, it would be very entertaining for everyone. But as it is, it just doesn`t seem plausible. I don`t see how fun it could be setting off UW after UW without opposition. Fun for a while, yes, but that has to get old. Personally I don`t play this game just to "win," I play it to fight and setting off UW`s on servers without much opposition is not really fighting and hardly winning at all.

I am just trying to brain storm ideas to help make things more interesting for everyone. If you have any ideas I would love to hear them as well.

HB, we actually split the alliance on ultra. TC were the dominant force on ultra for YEARS. So your argument is not viable on that one. But if you want us to split in 4 feds of 5 people, that won`t happen I guess. But yes, ultra is boring in a way(many ways). UWs are the only fun for us there as well, as there is usually nobody to fight.

I think on the other hand fast is getting more lively lately - there is some action on the middle ranks and there will be somehow more action soon that you won`t expect.

Slow - it is all against MK, and MK`s active players are me, loof, deiloche, grantweep, omegian and arch more or less. You may or may not believe it, but we are being under constant fire on this server and it is more difficult than it used to be before to stay untouched for longer(I have done that for months before).

Well the number of fed is already very limited. But yeah that`s sort of what I was trying to get at, have the most powerful empires split into two feds and go to war. The others can fight each other as they get stronger and eventually there will be more strong empires on the servers, thus more activity for everyone.

Or would that be too much for the powerhouses to accept, losing complete control over the server and actually having to fight a worthy adversary?

why not on the slower servers just limit the number of feds or just have 2 big feds vs each other or such