clustering ...

Perhaps? Of course it would be! We`re freakin` immortals (comparitively.) Especially on RT! A generation for our subjects being 5 turns, then that means our subjects don`t even live for a minute! That means that there are 2160 possible generations a day! Definitely freakin` immortal. Hell, even on slow there`s almost ten generations a day.

Good stuff, I especially like H.B., "breed the high loyalty people"! And maybe Deloche is right, as rulers we are Immortals - perhaps social engineering would be an important aspect of our ruling responsibilities. LOL

Whatever works eh? Fearful obedience turns into loyalty over the generations. Clearly, we`re immortals whereas our populace dies pretty short lives. After all, look at the population growth rate. I imagine that 5 - 10 turns is a generation for our populace, ahaha.

sounds more like obedience after the whole martial law thing than loyalty.... lol

now i understand... of course the high loyalty pop will stay loyal... they`re scared not to be coz you will kill all the not-so-loyal pop... lmao...

Ahahahaha. Three on one, Deathroe gets owned all at once. ^^;

not really.. actually it`s logical.. u remove pop which is less loyal to you. Then you left the pop with high loyalty to you alone.. clustering them will be high loyalty since the only pop left are those with high loyalty during the clustering..

Why? It`s logical. Any future population is born to the population that is already extremely loyal, and thus raised to be loyal. Cheaper to make a smaller population loyal and grow from it.

lol DR... makes perfect sense... kill off the low loyalty people and breed the high loyalty people... guaranteed higher loyalty individuals... =)

side note: It has always troubled me that you actually (more efficiently) can increase Loyalty by killing off your population .............

Troubling, if you think about it :)

It`s a common tax trick, ESPECIALLY useful on slower servers or for guardians. Takes a month to loyalty something on slow, bit of a time sink. :P

normally IF i want to max the loyalty on any cluster, i will cluster all 5 planets first... even a C2, i`ll cluster a C2 first then i`ll max it... so it`s quite interesting when devorock brought up this issue... at least i learned something new... lol...

It might be done with logs or something else like that. It shouldn`t really matter. When clustering planets, always kill off pop on the lower loyalty planets.

I thought it averaged across population ...

as everyone has been saying, best to zero pop the low loyalty planets before clustering. This guarantees max loyalty. Most important for guards.

Valja, nobody knows the formula, I don`t even think stephen knows the formula. It might even be random, I don`t knows. All I know is that the loyalty is based on population, it might average out based on each person counting for the amount of loyalty that that planet has. Not sure how to explain it exactly.

But yeah seifer is right, if you kill all the pop on the low loyalty planets\clusters than the made cluster will have the loyalty of the high loyalty planet\cluster (the one with pop on it).

Holy cow pat you can make U clusters !!

Seifer is right... i`ve tested this one... (0 x 4) + (1 x 50) = 50...

so now i`m wondering why there are difference in calculation between both situations... lol...

does anyone know the exact formula that can answer both situations?