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Started by sumarian · 14/10/2009 · 09:10 AM · 65 replies · 2 reads
S sumarianOP
I have put up with so much stuff from people in this game but this uw by opus is the lasts

straw for me. For numerous reason.


1. first off opus wouldnt even be up there if not for most of CC participating in an event

that our admins spent thier time designing and running.
Opus was in the event but apparently he figure he didnt want to particapate with the rest

of the gc community he would rather just take advantage of everyone else who is

participating. So now the people still in the event have to deal with opus`s buddies hitting

them with huge spams while they have to 6 stack or lose points. for instance kinda hard to

beat a 135mil lictor spam from 2x with a 6stack. Then we have a guard leader rakin in points

becasuse arch who isnt in the event spams you down till you dont have a stack then hits you

with orinos for points. sigh. As cheap as all that was I was fine with it until he whined

to admins about the npc`s, Now they can`t hit opus even tho he orchestrated everything.
In my opinion if the admins had any backbone they would have told opus if you start a uw

during an ongoing event then deal with the consequences. But now the event is toast all

because of one person who would rather mess it up for everyone then wait until the event was

over.
B BadKarma
Ggosh i hate to be saying so much.. not trying to be annoying, but i wanted to say that i made some great money on the food market, but it involves great risk. Again its strategy just hoping someone like VALJA or an aminer comes around and buys out the food market for us because if they don`t... OOPS i just invested my ENTIRE bank account on cheaper food!!! So you think we are making oogles of money but i lose tens of billions in unsold food gambling. I`ll tell you something tho... nobody would be coming around buying out the market after a UW!!! all these guys have reached MAX everything, minerals cash, etc. I think its time they start re investing. That`s my story and im sticking to it! NOW IM DONE
B BadKarma
If you recall the oiginal event post (its as a STICKY on the top of the forum)
"prepare yourselves for a new age..."
YOU`RE NOT DOING THAT. Let me repeat... prepare yourselves for a new age...
That means MAYBE your viral event leader was the dope who didn`t try to UW right off the bat when he should have. with over a million land.. what a fool. Oops, now im giving you ideas. I`d rather keep my ideas to arch. It`s more than just stacks... it`s diplomacy, strategy, and politics. Don`t you forget politics are corrupt and always will be. Sometimes it`s utilitarian graetest good for the greatest all, sometimes its selfish, sometimes its good for a few, sometimes it sucks for everyone. Oh and shoot you break even at 17!? i thought it was 12 for some reason... i`ve been trying to post at 15 all this time when i should have been aiming for 20!! ah hahahaha!
B BadKarma
What the heck!? Wow I am against nearly everything all you friggin people are against. Especially Suma you crazy monkey pyth/herc spamming marus then having the nerve to post this? ah ha! Please.

Now those of you thinking arch is doing wrong? WRONG. The wrongest thing he did was steal my battle tactics. You better believe I`ve been PM`ing everyone i can to spam up and start smacking event members near me so i can hit people with un even stacks. The only shame is guardian fed doesn`t get points for when arch wins. It`s CALLED WAR STRATEGY. You freakin people. I can`t believe this! it`s an outrage, you don`t like it, PLEASE quit there are 12 newbs waiting in line to take your place.
Me and arch will be there tag teaming your butts long after this event.

And youuu verbally abusing opus... how dare you! i hope this universe goes pop all the freakin time.... I remember reading the ultimate goal of the game is to blow the UW! the only shame is Opus LEFT THE MARU EVENT FED DANG IT. DIST members had to bail out of the event to be neutral while others left to make ur SPAMS and not lose points. SUCK IT UP you wankers! pmg i can`t believe i got out of bed for this crab.

SUMA you should have UW`d a long time ago. But now you are just a quitter. You chose to go with either a very very profittable empire or a hard to manage empire. Gosh led me scroll back and read some more stuff that requires someone to STFU.....

Yeah EE, 10 stacking.... sure implement that 10 stack rule on round 6.... as for now 6 stacks is hard enough.... its to someones advantage to build 10 stacks so when they attack they may even have 6 left over. 10 stack always rule would be great if i could say RE ships!!!! I can`t! I have some pretty sweet ships too, so i`d rather focus on building ships that work!

EVENT FED LEADERS yes should have enough skill or represent enough pride for the their race to have 7+ stacks when 6 are required. But tis shouldn`t be mandatory.
D DankMasterSkorp
Economy is a very key part of warfare. That being said the amount of infra research needed to make some empires self sufficient is quite absurd and will only be obtained by extremely old empires
V VALJA
hmmmm... since my name is being mentioned, all i can say... the idea of a self-sufficient empire that won`t depend 100% on the market should be considered... sometimes, economy can be considered a weapon in a war... look at the history of WW1 & WW2 or even during Cold War... even nowadays, there are economy sanctions on certain part of the worlds... sorry to say that empires who can survive independently might have better chances to stay alive at the end...

anyway, i`ve PMed you sumarian... hopefully you`ll be happy on that... :)
S Sadistic{}Interns
!! OT Warning !!

Let`s not get into empires that are not in the event scouting/hitting participating empires with spams - some of which will be very familiar to you as well...
B Biohazard
Sad to see you leave Suma,

If Arch is doing tha he need to be a follow up by the admin`s, but only if you can prove it ofcourse.


Than again, sad your leaving.
S Sadistic{}Interns
Suma - this is a war game mate. (War is not pretty)

Secondly - how are we Maru`s meant to make money if not by selling food? There are plenty of other food producing races out there to set competitive food prices. (as you mentioned your Fed also helps bail you out as well - that means that our food bounces and we have to re-post)

I`ve spent 399 days surviving and building my empire just the same as you - this game moves in ebbs and flows - lets not talk about adjusting Races shall we?

I`m sorry you`re leaving - who is going to pyth spam me now?? =)
Sadi.
A AdmiralSarek
just suspend the event while the UW is on
S Squaks
i find this UW to be more fun than the event
A Arc
Personally, i congratulate Opus. You say he "orchestrated" everything for his own gain... Isn`t that the point of a UW anyway? He just picked the best time to do it. If it really is his goodbye, he picked a good way to do it. /salute
S ScarletTears
All rules should be clearly posted to everyone before the event, such as point systems, leaving fed makes you void forever, rewards, ect..

well that`s just my two cents worth on it...frankly I think Maraudian is to lenient during these events, but that`s because he`s to kind. If I were over this event i`d demand every one have 10 balanced stacks at all times, and you must build balanced, no one stack at a time...and if you were caught deliberately spamming offensively or defensively X amount of times then you`d barred from the event, and if you kept trying to interfere with the event in any way then you`d be suspended until the event was over. That would make this more of a DM friendly event then huh? Aren`t we all glad I don`t get to make decisions around here? I know I am this game would probably die in a month.

Lastly I feel your aggravation sumar, i`m sure we all do, but honestly this is nothing to quit over mate. I`ll try to catch you on msn some time soon
S ScarletTears
Well first of all, there has been a lot of actions that could be deemed unethical by a lot of people thus far in the game, i`m sure we could all make our own pretty list and maybe we should as a "critique" of the event. it was a good idea Maraudian, and i do think we all appreciate the effort i know i do....a alot of the problems have to do with the rules and regulations...it`s hard to account for all scenarios for events such as these.

for me first off a stack needs to be 7 stacks or over....and npcs should always have to have 10...expecially when attacking, they have better ships so they should be made to have 10 stacks.
(i know some people whine because they can`t find 7 ships to put in their stack and they`re already using both fodders a runner and king/queen...what are they to do...i feel for you but you always have more options)

secondly i think fed leader npcs should have an online time cap at about 3-6 hours where they can`t be online for longer than that in a 24 hour period. some where in that range should be good enough, it`s not fair that some feds have more active leaders than others and it only punishes the members of the less fortunate feds...i know it still doesn`t solve the problem of those feds who`s fed leaders don`t log on for days at a time.

next, Either no fed war or find away to make universal fed war, where all those feds have fed war bonus against all other racial feds. honestly do any of us really need to do fed war hits in this event, the only thing it does it promote laziness.


UW`s during events like these, either they shouldn`t be allowed or npcs should be able to hit whom ever they please during a UW...right now as it stands leaders can`t attack UW`s but there`s no rules against NPCs being able to defend them, and there`s no way to regulate if one is defending a UW...and defending a UW is just as unfair as attacking one...you know NPCs are active so you should be prepped to deal with it.
D DankMasterSkorp
Well his timing was very good and you can`t get mad at him for waiting for the majority of skilled fighters to be distracted(honestly I considered doing the same). If Arch is doing that I believe its wrong. Even if he was given the NPC for the event that seems like abuse.

Yes Squaks there is a difference between fed wars and multi accounts.

If I were to help one of the feds as an outside ally that is also different from what Arch is supposedly doing. It would be wrong for, say BadKarma, to make a second account and use it to help him in the event...
A Ang3l0fDeath2
Opus is leaving, this is his good-bye to us... as for the timing, seriously this event was a waste of time, it wasnt meant for everyone.... section federations of into races, not the smarted idea or very origional. then the NPC leaders, wow they are so great. i would guess half of them dont know how to stack but who really needs to when you can build D class & out build most other people in minutes.... so over powering someone in time isnt a problem or stacking compared to most other races with slow build rate ships.

Is there anything i missed?

Oh wait this thing about those who are knocking people around with spams.... its the same old same old.... abuse of spamming will never end & is the problem of the game, its not who stacks better anymore, its who gots the better spam or bigger spam.
R raven
squaks so if you are complaining about fed wars then your in the wrong thread. fed wars are there for a reason they are cheap but its not cheating. Using an npc for gain easoer points by the event is cheating in my eyes
S Squaks
so its fair to have everyone vs 1 fed but not fair for that 1 fed to have outside help?
V Vendeen
Squaks, we`re talking fairness, not "boohoo, everyone hates me =(" stuff.

Keep that at home with the kiddies. This is a war game, we don`t care about your emotions so long as it`s fair.
S Squaks
not sure how ya can be mad at the guards since every other race fed is waring the guards, so how can that be fair also
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