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Started by sumarian · 14/10/2009 · 09:10 AM · 65 replies · 1 read
S sumarianOP
OP 14/10/2009 · 09:10 AM
I have put up with so much stuff from people in this game but this uw by opus is the lasts

straw for me. For numerous reason.


1. first off opus wouldnt even be up there if not for most of CC participating in an event

that our admins spent thier time designing and running.
Opus was in the event but apparently he figure he didnt want to particapate with the rest

of the gc community he would rather just take advantage of everyone else who is

participating. So now the people still in the event have to deal with opus`s buddies hitting

them with huge spams while they have to 6 stack or lose points. for instance kinda hard to

beat a 135mil lictor spam from 2x with a 6stack. Then we have a guard leader rakin in points

becasuse arch who isnt in the event spams you down till you dont have a stack then hits you

with orinos for points. sigh. As cheap as all that was I was fine with it until he whined

to admins about the npc`s, Now they can`t hit opus even tho he orchestrated everything.
In my opinion if the admins had any backbone they would have told opus if you start a uw

during an ongoing event then deal with the consequences. But now the event is toast all

because of one person who would rather mess it up for everyone then wait until the event was

over.
A Aacra
15/10/2009 · 12:48 AM
Jammer hit me at from 140millish to keep me down, they couldnt have me up there in fear i would 2x them. them being the guards. I dont wish to post My fleet nor my fedmates. sorry for the noncompliance. And this was just before the UW, about when you sent blackangel up to hit theos, in prep for your UW.
S sumarianOP
15/10/2009 · 12:46 AM
lol, badkarma, too funny. All you know how to do is sit down low and hit me at my base pr after some else takes me down. Arch on the other hand is a very skilled player and i have enjoyed the challenge of fighting him. I am not mad at arch for his tactics, i might have done the same. I am just upset that the event was aloud to be takin advantage of, then when the tables turned a bit all of a sudden its not fair.
O OpusDei
15/10/2009 · 12:43 AM
Aacra. show me battle results of own fed members hitting u...i am curious bout that..cuz i dont see anyone playing the event right now. everything is as if there was no event...
A Aacra
15/10/2009 · 12:40 AM
this whole event acts as a shield for Opus UW, im getting hit by my own fedmates in the name of the Event, when all i want to do is take down the UW. It is supposed to be Opus`s allies defending his UW, his defense isnt supposed to be a byproduct of an existing event.
G GradualIncline
15/10/2009 · 12:37 AM
that`s true Aacra, though I doubt any of us can get up to 100 million pr spams with the upper level defense this UW seems to have.
A Aacra
15/10/2009 · 12:31 AM
sorry bout double post, was accidental
A Aacra
15/10/2009 · 12:30 AM
Honestly gradual, a balanced fleet from 5mil pr or what ever you did, isnt the kind of play im talking about.. Im not trying to belittle your effort, it is very much appreciated, but im talking about doin substancial damage in the 100mil+ range.. From past UW`s, i gathered that it is supposed to be your allies keeping down your enemies, not having your enemies put down as a result of fighting in a different event..
A Aacra
15/10/2009 · 12:25 AM
NO, badkarma that is not the community that is forcing people to lose, but a small handful of people who play the ethical gray area. I was carrying 10 stacks for a very long time, basically untill i kept getting my top stacks knocked out by eterbehinds 135mil lictor spam, and fully stacked guards who are 2xing you tend to knock out enough ships to make my fleet less than 6 balanced stacks. For the most part the GC community rocks, its just a few people who abuse it i have problems with.
A Aacra
15/10/2009 · 12:19 AM
NO, badkarma that is not the community that is forcing people to lose, but a small handful of people who play the ethical gray area. I was carrying 10 stacks for a very long time, basically untill i kept getting my top stacks knocked out by eterbehinds 135mil lictor spam, and fully stacked guards who are 2xing you tend to knock out enough ships to make my fleet less than 6 balanced stacks. For the most part the GC community rocks, its just a few people who abuse it i have problems with.

ethics are manners , rules are rules.

since when did you people be ethical on the battlefield , " excuse me sir can you please turn around so i can shoot you in the face , it would be unethical of me to do so if your not expecting it " yeh...

Edited by Maraudian on 2009-10-15
G GradualIncline
15/10/2009 · 12:15 AM
hmm, I`ve attacked Opus with both spams and balanced fleets, so...what are you arguing about Aacra?
S sumarianOP
15/10/2009 · 12:12 AM
No i dont think its fair Maraudian. But at the same time its not fair that he used the event and the npc`s to set up and defend the uw. And the npc`s didnt all of a sudden appear during his uw. The event you started and got us all to invest our time in was there first. You make it sound like opus worked and fought hard with his fed mates to gain control of the ranks and start the uw.


did anywhere during my event did i stop normal players from none race fed war event gameplay ?

kalzul project is a player held event and takes priority over any event staff host , has always been like that and i dont recall saying at anytime UW`s will be paused... oh wait dont explore races get all sorts of bonus points from UW`s ... ? doesnt that mean the event itself promotes an increase in UW attempts...

so let me see here we have a giant race war going on and an empire outside of this war has tacticly used this to his advantage perhaps ( even though everyone should be prepared for UW`s anyway as the event offers points for this )

but for some reason this is wrong...

err war game.

Edited by Maraudian on 2009-10-15
A Aacra
14/10/2009 · 11:54 PM
oh yeah, one last note, starting an event that requires spamming (UW), during an event that requires stacking (current event). Is totally BS. One of those very ethically gray area`s. I really expected more from someone who claims to respect the traditions and integrity of this game....
B BadKarma
14/10/2009 · 11:53 PM
that is called the GC community forcing you to lose. if you had a 10 stack then were spammed.. well well, you wouldnt be having a spamming problem now would you?
A Aacra
14/10/2009 · 11:43 PM
I still have to agree with Suma that hitting an event empire with a non event empire to nock out a stack, then hitting them with an empire empire so that they dont have 6 stacks, then reporting it as a spam, is very ethically gray, i expect more of the GC community.

err have more than 6-7 stacks then ... you can have upto 10 so if someone nocks out 4 you have free dp anyhow or so one would expect...

Edited by Maraudian on 2009-10-15
A Aacra
14/10/2009 · 11:41 PM
the only reasons you guys mess with the food market are 1. to finance your ambitions at the cost of others play. (when food is above 17 for 3-6month at a time tax virals are out of the game.) 2. You cant beat your opponents on the battlefield, so you beat them with your pocket book.
B BadKarma
14/10/2009 · 10:59 PM
Plus the NPCS won`t last forever.. longer you drag on the event the longer these guys you love to hate are around :)
M Maraudian
14/10/2009 · 07:42 PM
the NPC can hit anyone they want... they have no gains or reason to atack the UW but theres no rule saying they cant...

infact a boom going off benefits the NPC`s...


the fact you think its more than fair for the NPC`s to defeat him however is pretty dang pathetic.

1. he isnt in the event
2. event npc with max everything and pretty powerfull ships hitting him for no reason...

would you like it if one ( better than the ammount of NPC atm ) appeared when you were doing an UW and started ruining it on you... its hard enough to last 48 hours as it is...

but regardless to how unfair i think it would be for the NPC to lift a finger on this UW , there is no rule saying they cant

Edited by Maraudian on 2009-10-14
O OpusDei
14/10/2009 · 07:13 PM
...leader with these incomes and ships ruin something you did work hard for.It didnt say in the rules anywhere other empires have to stop their gc life and look at the others play the event, did it? I left the event not for the UW but for the simple fact that i did not deserve getting 50Regalos or other rewards for sitting at top ranks.

The fleet? I dont think u have ever considered building any of the ships i did suma cuz u would have fallen asleep or gotten bored getting the cash to finance these ships as a maru.
I did not simply build Bulls and you should know better. Having Bullheads top was my best shot to survive longer...too bad 2 weeks ago you killed the 100mil hammers that were in there too, so stop blaming me for what i have left.

This UW will go down or maybe not..but its as ligetimate as others`. Just because you did not get your food for dinner and couldnt fight properly doesnt mean i am doing something wrong.
As BK said and others, its part of the game, i take your supplies away that way you cant fight me...Same way as i can not afford a high expansive fleet with food prices at 3 or 4.


What went through my mind when i decided to click the UW button remains my own secret/decision/dream or whatever you call it.You knwo nothing of whats going through with me lately Suma.
Now cut the crab and get back in the ranks and fight me instead of quitting.

cheers
O OpusDei
14/10/2009 · 07:11 PM
Ok...I did not want to reply to this post in first place because tbh, i just didnt find the words to reply...

I`ll just start with your first point. I joined the event and left Distemper because i was asked to do so to help out.I was not really keen in particpating in the event since i wasnt around anyways due to several reasons and with an empire like mine it is not so easy to stay alive when inactive, you and your fed mates know best what it means running out of borders. Anyways, as you all know i do fight CC with a passion and have always since we broke Alliance back then which brought me to climbing high and support Isiael in fighting ``event empires`` who in the end were all CC members helping each other, this however u didnt mention dear sumarian. The only CC
member i know of who did fight other CC members is Jammer from the Guardian fed Leuctra. All you others backed each other up. On my way up however i started getting my trip abroad organized and also started questioning what to do with this empire and i didnt have many options. I thought of extended VM/Freeze or even kill the empire then decided to build one last time and use all my credits to reach max power.
Things were going good, till you Suma and your bro Aacra decided to spam me making me loose 300mil power.After which u also decided to hit me with dineros making me loose another
extra 200bil in cash. Therefore u must not blame me for asking others to help me out with food or minerals as i had no choice at that point, and naming them here is not nice of you either.
It was you who brought me to act that way.

As for ruining the event, I do not think its true. My so called ``buddies`` or how u called them are mainly not in any event fed and therefor you other event empires can hit them with any fleet u like and will not loose points. Talking about the npc and your hard work on your empire suma...well tell you what, after taking the decision to UW afterall, I can say that its not fun to see a
V VALJA
14/10/2009 · 06:42 PM
lmao... BadKarma... you`ve learned well... buy low, sell high... lol...
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