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Enslavement, enough already...

Started by VALJA · 12/09/2009 · 12:36 AM · 101 replies · 4 reads
V VALJAOP
let it be a statement on why enslavement`s 10x rule is no longer applicable nowadays...

at the moment... 12:18 AM 12 Sep 2009...

DarkRavenTNM`s PR is at 10,628,029... i need to break free at least above 106,280,290 PR...

45 Scorpions only will give 3,323,370 additional PR every 6 mins... so how long i need to waste my time to declare independant?

by the time i can reach 100 mill PR... at what PR DarkRavenTNM is eh?

anyway... now at 12:24 AM 12 Sep 2009

DarkRavenTNM`s PR is at 11,366,046... i guess i need to go above 112,000,000 PR now...

i`m going to send email to Stephen a copy of this thread regardless he`s doing something or not to show how i feel the enslavement issue as a PAID member of SFGC...

IF anyone`s thinking he won`t answer, the last time i mentioned about enslavement to him, he replied he might looking into it... perhaps it`s time to remind again...

at 12:34 AM 12 Sep 2009

DarkRavenTNM`s PR is at 13,026,546... oh boy, i need to be above 130,265,460 of PR to break free...

still think 10x rule is still applicable eh?
M Maraudian
there should be times when breaking free is impossible or pointless / unprofitable , at the moment your crying because it will take you 9 hours to break free , thats his intention to annoy you , after 8 hours i would log in and double my pr in 10 minutes or so just to enjoy your thread some more, and to see if you would climb for another 9 hours, then ide climb to 100m + just to make it impossible for you to climb out.

by the time the whole fuss over your pride is over you will have wasted like 500x more than if you

1. just pay the tribute like supposed in exchange for protection from atacks , some people prefer money over planets , and protection from being atacked by those empires.
2. alter your income path ( something we know you can do ) to produce 0 credits
3. build some scouts or something till you produce 0 credits
4. in most cases talking to them works , making some sort of pact in order to get free , such as X money , some artifacts etc etc , but in your case it wont , because we ENJOY doing this to you.
5. youve already made it clear that you have nice boarders , so the only reason someone has to enslave you ( taking into account the methods you have that others dont to ensure they get no profit ) is to see this kind of reaction from you.

by making this thread youve made that persons 5 turns worth while and entertained 70% of the server.
M Maraudian
if i was to enslave valja i would climb to max pr with a full stack and VM with reinforcements on , muwahaha * cough
V VALJAOP
or perhaps i can jusst stay in VM like someone eh? :)
T Travvivian
Put on your big-girl pants, quit complaining and deal with it, or switch Income type/Race. Problem solved in either scenario.
R Ragnarok
As an agri terran and a mineral/CG miner on turnbased, I laugh at enslavers. It`s your fault for going commercial or tax. ^_^
V VALJAOP
as long i`m around and still playing, at least i`m trying... can`t blame me for trying rite? :)
D Deiloche
Or, of course, you know... you could accept being enslaved. I mean, that`s a vague possibility. It`s not like it`s a hugely significant part of your income that you`ll actually notice, especially since you cannot really make much more cash.
D Deiloche
Yeah but you`ve been complaining about the 10x rule for years. :P It`s the same old stuff. And we keep telling you, "Stephen won`t change it." You keep whining. Come up with something new and maybe I would bother reading. ^^;

Though perhaps there is a way around the enslavement question! Who knows. ;)
V VALJAOP
Deiloche... i know you must be a very busy person until you can`t read each post... but IF you make an effort to read, then you`ll understand why i`m whining for years when it comes to enslavement...

but pity your busy schedule i`ll just make it a one line summary...

"10x rule" for enslavement is no longer applicable nowadays and please refer to YenLoWang`s post about how long it will take to break free with enslaver`s higher PR"

ok Deiloche? we`re cool? cheers... :)
D Deiloche
Offer to buy him a paid, maybe he`ll let ya go.

Of course, then everybody else will start enslaving you for free paids. Maybe you should just offer free paids to all terran/a.miners so that they don`t enslave you.
H HoneyBucket{HH}
Well often it is not much trouble at all, sometimes many of us are just looking for reasons to hit somebody, so the request would be a nice reason. You are forgetting that many of us in this game actually enjoy attacking other empires. Plus you should not feel badly, if we don`t want to then we won`t, and if we loose it`s our own fault. SO really Valja, I think you should not be so hesitant to ask around and try to get your master beaten, though i suggest you build up a ways first so right when they get dropped you can free yourself. Or offer you master cookies and\or pie to free you, believe it or not this does work once in a while.
D Deiloche
Do you ever stop whining? You`ve been around GC long enough that you MUST be older than 13 by now...
S Squaks
your the 3rd richest empire on RT and i`m sure you have max cash and loads of mins so i don`t know why you are complaining about building to 300mil pr, i see people not on the rich list build up to 100mil+ pr all the time
V VALJAOP
lol... regardless the calculation is right or not, congrats to YenLoWang for the effort...

a big juicy choc chips caramel cookie to YenLoWang.... :D
Y YenLoWang
313.284.710 / 73.606 = 4257 scorps required to break free at 313 mil pr
Y YenLoWang
313.284.710 pr / 3.323.370 = 94.26
94.26 * 6 mins = 565 mins
565 mins / 60 = 9.4 hours of building scorps
V VALJAOP
01:01 PM 12 Sep 2009

DarkRavenTNM`s PR is at 31,328,471


so... how many scorpies and how long it will take to break free according the "10x rule"? the first one gives the correct answer will get 1 large pizza-sized choc chips caramel cookie...
V VALJAOP
somehow i don`t feel like to trouble others coz they might even lose at the end... i don`t wish to have guilty conscience to make another friends/mates/allies feel upset at the end... :)

anyway, how easy to build up to 100 million PR eh? as for terrans, the fastest way is by using scorpions and every 6 mins it will add 3 million PR... roughly, 30 million PR will take around 60 mins... 60 mill PR will take 2 hours... 90 mill PR will take 3 hours... and few more hours or so just to be 10x than the master`s 10 milli PR...

3 hours ++ (or even more IF the master`s PR rising while building up) will be wasted just to break free... yeah... yeah... ask someone to help but please refer my first para above... infact, even IF you have friends/mates/allies but no one`s willing OR not at the PR range... you`re on your own...

keep the enslavement but do something with the "10x rule"... it`s no longer applicable...
H HoneyBucket{HH}
This is when friends and fed mates come in handy, to knock down your master as you build to free yourself. You could always just try asking random people to hit them for you, if I am available and it`s not a friend i would be more than happy to smack around someone for you =)
S Squaks
offer a bounty and i`m sure someone will drop him :)
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